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WHO WILL BE THE NEW MANAGER?

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by DragonPhilljack, Dec 7, 2015.

  1. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Sorry mate, not for me, Curtis has done an ok job, but whoever went in there as caretaker, would have had a response on the sacking of Monk. We need someone in ASAP, someone who is an experienced manager, experienced in tactics and changing them as the need arises, not someone who has not been in management at any senior level to carry on. I just feel you can see his naivety when he makes changes. There is no need for Curtis to go anywhere when the new man initially comes in and can certainly help in the transition. We just need someone with experience in now.
    There is also the question of him looking at the squad and deciding who he wants, who he doesn't and what players he would like to bring in. We leave it to long and it will be the usual panic buying or not dong anything at all.

    I wonder whether the thinking would be the same should we lose at Palace and Manure and can we afford to take the chance. Even though I do believe that Curt will still be In charge for both. The difference is even if we win them we still need a new manager.
     
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    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
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    Curtis has done a terrific job imo. He's re implemented the passing structure to our game. We have had 2 successive clean sheets and our players are 100% committed to the cause. Our only issue is creating chances/scoring goals and imo this will be an issue until a new striker is brought in.
    I'd give Curtis a 8/10 for the job he has done so far, but we need a manager ASAP.
     
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    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
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    I think we already have our man tbh, and that we are just getting this period out of the way before he comes in, hopefully using this time to look at players he could bring into the club. Or am I just being hugely optimistic? ;)
     
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    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Isnt that ironic, the former striker is able to sort the back 4 out, but our former manager and central defender couldn't.

    As for have the got their man. I can't help but think you are being very optimistic Valley. It is very quiet and they commented on the lack of a manager on Goals on Sunday this morning. the idiot Jason Cundy made the usual comment that we sacked the young British manager to soon. Cundy **** off as you probably haven't even seen one Swans game this season.
     
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    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
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    Well it is the season of hope :)

    As for potential managers, yes it has gone very quiet, which is why I think we already have our man.
    Either way, he should have been announced/in place by now as the transfer window opens in a few days. This has been handled far worse than the ML sacking fiasco.
     
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    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    The worry is that the favourite again is Poyet and I am not sure that he is anywhere near what we need or even remotely good enough for us. the squad he assembled at Sunderland was pathetic.
     
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    My theory on a less than great game against West Brum ( love the points though ) is we got a lead (whens the last time we had one of those ) at home and the players were very nervous about keeping it in front of fans who are less than happy about not watching a win for months .
    I'm actually happy about playing a few games away with a win at home under our belt and expect good things from those 2 away games, with relaxed and creative players .
     
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    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
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    I'd much rather Curtis stay in charge. Get Poyet and we're going down.
     
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    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    I agree but I also we will go down if we keep Curtis till the end of the season.
     
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    Di Matteo 7/2 fav
    Poyet 6/1
     
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    No way Jose ....Curtis will keep us up and with only a mid grade striker coming in in the window
     
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    I don't want Poyet or Di Matteo :steam:
     
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    Have to disagree, we have got 4 points from last 2 yes, a point against a west ham team who haven't won in 9 and had about 9 players out. yes a win against a poor West brom side who haven't won in 5 and had players missing, who on times were better than us and we were hanging on. Curtis as I said has done an ok job, under enormous pressure, His Naivety at this level I feel is on show on times and as a PL club to leave a guy in charge who has no experience until the end of the season would be suicidal and would I believe end up with us being relegated. As per usual people are getting carried away with a couple of half tidy performances on the back of Monks sacking. Curtis isn't and never will be a Pl standard manager and to continue with him would be total madness, with the money that is available next season. This is only my opinion of course.
     
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    I would prefer Di Matteo to Poyet though.
     
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    We could very easily had 7 points in Curtis's 3 games in charge and the only win we had is the game we played the worse ...lol.
    Know what your saying lefty and you could very well be right , I just think your wrong .The biggest thing Curtis has going against him is I don't think he wants the job , but duty calls
    The prove will be for all to see in due time .
     
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    (I've argued with people numerous times why I don't want Poyet here... so just a heads up that I am playing devil's advocate here for the good of discussion).

    Let's actually look at his management career so far. He did a great job at Brighton, and then tried to steady a sinking ship in Sunderland. The issue that he had at Sunderland was that he was inheriting a squad that wasn't reknowned for playing football - heck, he had players like Wes Brown, Phil Bardsley, Connor Wickham, Darren Fletcher, John O'Shea, Lee Cattermole... I mean, he tried to bring in some footballers (Jordi Gomez, Jack Rodwell, etc) but couldn't get them to gel into the team and they struggled the following season.

    It would be interesting to see what he could do with a team that has a spine consisting of good footballers. Again, devil's advocate here, but to directly compare the situation he faced at Sunderland to our current plight is neither completely fair or the case. If we're going to look at stats - he boasted a near 45% win ratio with Brighton taking them from mid-table League 1 to Championship play-offs in 3 seasons (winning League 1 along the way) - that's better than Martinez did with us. He went on to have a record of W23 D22 L30 with Sunderland while almost delivering them the League Cup (some on here would have you believe that's a monumental achievement) beating Southampton, Chelsea, United over 2 legs and losing out to City in the final where they took the lead initially. A pretty brutal run of cup games and despite the cup run, he kept struggling Sunderland in the division.

    With a team not reknowned for playing good football, some would say he didn't do too badly. Alright, his signings and attempt to change style didn't pay off, but neither were his signings actually changing the spine of the team (he mainly brought in fringe players) - when you're at the bottom, changing senior players at a club could be seen as too much of a risk which without pay-off will see you relegated - it wouldn't surprise me if the board at Sunderland insisted on Poyet keeping players like Cattermole so not to unbalance the team too much too soon.

    Now he wouldn't have to worry about changing the spine of the team at Swansea because the players will already know how to play how he wants, so maybe our club would be a better suit for him. Who knows? It would be a huge risk to give him a go, but if he could get us performing how Brighton played under him, I don't think many people would complain.
     
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    We could have easily have won some of the games we lost under Monk, Laudrup and Rodgers, but we didn't and we didn't get 7 points so all we can look at is the points we got you just cant use what might of been as an argument. We can not pick a manager on what ifs. As I have said I am not trying to do Curtis down, he has done a tidt job since coming in and has had a good response from the players, but I believe no matter who you put there they probably would have had that response at the relief of not having to play under GM anymore. He has done nothing special to show me he has the know how to be a full time PL manager, I don't even know whether he has the qualifications, somebody I am sure will tell us.
     
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