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  1. GLP

    GLP Well-Known Member

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    It would be interesting to see his assist stats from all these excellent crosses you suggest he's capable of. I'd suggest it will be low, very low. I rest my case.
     
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    I've seen him cross a ball, both for City and for Brentford from what I've seen. He's capable of crossing the ball, whether or not he does it consistently is another matter.

    Besides, crossing isn't the be all and end all of a winger. Sure, it's important, but players like Deulofeu rely on their direct attacking play rather than crossing. There's loads of wingers who, despite probably being capable crossers, prefer to rely on pace and good dribbling to create chances. How often do you see Sterling putting Beckham-esque crosses into the box for Aguero? I rest my case.
     
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    He doesn't really run directly at the opposition either. Are you sure you're not confused? You're certainly not describing the player I have been watching since the start of the season.

    1 assist in 21 games, which wasn't a cross.

    He averages 1.4 dribbles per game - this must be those penetrating Deulofeu or Sterling type penetrating runs he makes? At 1.4 per game I guess the argument is blink and you miss it.

    He's not a bad player, but he wasn't what was required. Every season we can all see we need attacking impetus up top - not 1.4 dribbles per game from a mercurial cross machine - who incidentally has made 0 long key passes in 21 games - which one can only assume would include crossing.

    Case closed.
     
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    I presume you used WhoScored.com as your source? Same source says Sterling has a dribbling average of 1.4 overall per game as well. Odubajo could have a higher dribbling average if he was played in his right position on the right-wing but we'll never know because Bruce likes making the same mistakes over and over and over again.

    By the way, for future reference, do a bit more research when using statistics off the internet. And that reminds me, always reference your sources.
     
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    In case you have short-term memory loss, the highlights from the Reading game show an instance where Odubajo gets forward (into his best position) and links up well with Hernandez and perhaps should have scored. Notice the good dribbling to get himself into the attacking position - Elmo rarely cuts inside and does that and he plays nearly every minute of every game on the right-wing.



    Another clip. He probably played his best attacking football for Leyton Orient, where he was played in his right position on the right-wing.

     
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    The fact is he doesn't have higher dribbling average. He was bought as a right back, either way it was a completely unnecessary signing as he has compromised our formation and arguably the form of Elmo by playing them both on the right. We don't currently suit 4-4-2 with the players at our disposal and the minute Bruce ditches it and returns to 3-5-2 I'm sure we'll see results improve.

    Why do more research when one source is adequate to prove you're talking bollocks? Reference it? GTF this is a forum not a dissertation.

    Who were you last week? Voltaire is a new name but with 3k posts.
     
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    Patches O'Houlihan to Bret Dilkington to Vince Masuka to Voltaire.
     
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    Bret - You disappoint me. Very amateur.

    Elmo is probably the best crosser of a ball at the club.

    He wasn't bought as a right winger - he was bought as a ****ing right back.
     
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    Same source proved you were the one talking bollocks. <laugh>

    And yeah, you should reference a source when using it to make an ill-informed argument. As for 3-5-2, kin 'ell. It was one of the many reasons we got relegated. We got way too predictable with 3-5-2 and teams found us out and outplayed us. People on this forum were screaming for a change in formation at the back end of last season and rightly so. Four at the back has served us well this season; Dawson's absences recently have been the biggest factor in our poor performances. We're not impotent up front like you suggest; Akpom could have had a hat-trick against Rotherham but he hit the post twice and should have buried another. We're making chances. Posters like you and Roo have this mindset that whenever we lose a few games, the solution is to buy two or three new strikers in the next transfer window and the argument trotted out is usually the same load of bollocks.

    'We need two or three new forwards. One experienced player at this level, one punt from the lower leagues and maybe a foreign gamble.'

    I don't know about anyone else but reading this same post every transfer window for the past few years is ****ing boring.
     
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    I know. Keeping Rosenior would have been a better option then. And I never said Elmo wasn't the best crosser of the ball. He's just predictable.
     
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    Only 3k posts though. I'm not a sad bastard with 57k. <laugh>
     
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    No, but you are sad enough to continually change your name. Like you have something to hide. Multiple name changes = saving face?
     
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    Nope. I just get bored.
     
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    Edited 4 times aswell. Well done.

    We didn't get relegated because of the formation, we were relegated because we simply weren't good enough.

    It's a well known fact that the striker issue, or lack of, has not been properly addressed for years. The closest we came to properly addressing the issue was when we signed Long and Jelavič. But Long moved on as his wife couldn't settle and we bought Hernandez - that was instrumental in our relegation, we no longer had a strike force that complimented each other, aside from the injuries we had to contend with. The formation was **** all to do with it.

    For the same reason's that you have highlighted in your own post - Akpom missed 3 gilt edged chances, and neglected to play in Hernandez when he was better placed. How many misses or near misses do you allow? Or are you happy that he keeps on making poor decisions and drawing blanks?

    You aren't very good at this, I'd suggest you go and have another go and come back with some more compelling evidence. Alternatively, to save face you could always go and change your name again - saves you looking a twat.

    PS - Don't forget to reference! Twat.
     
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    I have OCD so I edit out any typos.

    And I seem to remember people on this forum complaining after our one nil loss to Burnley last season, mostly about the formation and our negative play. Hernandez has seven league goals so far which is decent. Others have chipped in. Our strikers aren't the massive issue people like you make out on this forum. And you tell me to come back with compelling evidence. I don't see any compelling evidence in any of your posts that changing to 3-5-2 will improve results. It's your opinion against mine, soft ****.
     
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    Soft **** <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>

    I laugh at you, simply laugh.

    Now **** off you boring ****.
     
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    Nah I'm alright. Merry Christmas, soft ****.
     
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    In your own multiple persona mind maybe. Does Bret tell patches and Vince that Voltaire is ok? <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh> You should see a Dr about it.
     
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    I already do. But it's not for schizophrenia.
     
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    Good to hear, keep taking your tablets.
     
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