No meltdown lad, just angered by a few daft Mackems talking ****e about my club and then trying to make out that we took the piss out of Hillsborough. Go post a thread on the Liverpool board asking about that issue and Evertonians lad.
Why? How can they defend you? They weren't at the Sunderland v Everton game when you disrupted the minutes silence for Hillsborough... Anyways, it's not just that is it? There's numerous pictures and a video of your fans causing trouble around the grounds at this country and also drug dealing in Lille.
There are idiots at every club but one thing is a fact Everton have always stood by Liverpool throughout the Hillsborough disaster, when the majority of the country were calling our fans scum Everton stood fast and refused to believe it. You seem to have an issue with Tobes and are using this personal issue to try and mark Everton fans as scum, I doubt your club has an unblemished history. Like I said there are trouble makers and idiots at every club.
They've conveniently ignored the simple facts that their own fans are way ahead in the banning orders league and they're near the top of the total arrests in football for last season and we're not even in the top 20. But we're the scum of the Earth apparently, for shouting at a bus queue It was the Hillsborough stuff that tipped me though, ****ing ignorant ****e
I was stood in the north stand as they rained down coins on us, into children. Than as I left I witnessed the abuse and aggressive behavior by the away fan buses where they charged at fans(there's a video of this) and abused passing women in front of their children. I can't comment on the silence being disrupted as I was at the opposite end of the ground that day and could only hear the noise from the concourse. I have personally witnessed dreadful behavior from Everton fans at three of the last four SoL fixtures. Those too plonkers arguing till they're blue in the face is completely irreverent to the facts I personally experienced. Fair play to them questioning the silence thing as it's a major accusation, but Tobes is denying everything and the other fool is saying verbally abusing women women in front of their children is acceptable and they should suck it up. It's called putting their fingers in their ears. Feel free to join them. They way they've gone on is more worthy of this thread and has been very entertaining.
I've not read through the thread and am not putting fingers in my ears as you say. I am pointing out though that when you attack a club and label them all idiots there tends to be a defence of that. Can you honestly say that none of your fans have ever behaved badly at a football match? Because of my previous job I've been to matches up and down the country but not always in the away end with Liverpool but just watching matches where I was living and it has been very rare for me to go and not see some kind of abuse or violence during the day. None of it is acceptable.
Of course not, That's the difference between me and them. I am fully prepared condemn my own fans when they misbehave. I understand every club have fans who misbehave. Someone stole a phone at the SOL light on the day of the derby with Newcastle. The reports say they're looking for an individual and released an image. It doesn't specify which club the the fan belonged to, there's a high chance it's a Sunderland fan. I hope the person who stole it caught, charged with theft and given a long banning order. As it's not acceptable. http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/...326?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed See. It's not hard is it? A hell of lot more dignified then blindly denying eye witness accounts. We're a close knit bunch on our board, many of us meet at matches, we're entitled to discuss incidents we've experienced at the match. Tobes and his mate can their feet stamp all they want. Just makes them the meltdown clowns.
I get your point and as I said I haven't read the thread so don't know how it has all gone, would I be right in saying that there is a certain amount of poking a poster so that he reacts though? I can't imagine they are just on there arguing with no provocation or generalisation of Everton fans as a whole, I take it that PJ is the other poster?
Yeah I'm kind of guilty of that like I'll hold my hands up but it's only because he charges in full blast with insults anyway(I didn't insult him btw). He'd be joining the thread anyway so I got it over with and got him in on the thread. Nothing more predictable on this site than Tobes. It was bumped because we were discussing threads this year(I didn't bump it) I invited Tobes to the thread months and months ago(Thread was started back in May). Not sure if anyone prompted him back this time. Too many pages to be bothered with. Aye the other is PJ.
just reading this eating my dinner, funny as ****. As long as tobes and pj don't go true to form and disrupt me, I'll be on soon.
You wouldn't even accept the fact that being near the top of the arrests and banning orders table suggested that your own fans are more worthy of the scum tag than ours lad, so dismount that high horse. That thread was primarily about 2 incidents, some alleged coin throwing - which IF it happened was completely out of order by whichever bell end did it, no excuse here lad. The second was some verbals at a bus queue, which you were trying to make out was some form of major incident, it was **** all, god help you if you'd have been going the game in the 80's pet Taking those 2 incidents and labelling an entire fanbase as the worst around, was a ****ing joke. It sparked a reaction - as you'd expect. Imagine if I made the same accusation after some minor issue with Mackems at Goodison? You'd have all gone apeshit. A couple of yours then went for the lowest common denominator and showed their true colours in the process, classy.
Oh and btw @Big Funk Allardyce this Mackem wrote to the Liverpool Echo after your visit to Goodison last month http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...land-supporter-pens-heartfelt-letter-10370599 Worst fans in the league
No get it right, I said it's irreverent because arrests doesn't reflect the true numbers of troublemakers at a football club. Numbers of troublemakers at all clubs will by far surpass the amount of arrests. By the hundreds and hundreds. Take the Sunderland arrests and add 200 to the amount fans we'll have had this over the course of the season. Same as any club. Police don't arrest every fan who misbehaves, they won't even witness most of it. I was going to games in the 80 pet. I'm not still living in the 80s though. Football is much more family oriented these days and children shouldn't be charged at and they should have to listen to their mother being being verbally abused by sexual comments. It's not 30 years ago anymore Tobes. This isn't putting you in a good light by say such behavior is nowt. Coins were thrown 100%. It wasn't down onto thousands of men in the 80s, they thrown down on children in present day.
From my experience yes and that's nothing against the decent fans of Everton of which there are thousands upon thousands, obviously it's in reference to the many incidents I've experienced. More than any other club. That's a fact, I know this because I was at every incident I've experienced This gentleman obviously has had different experiences. I can respect that. He may have experienced incidents with completely different clubs which I'm non the wiser of.
Not arsed about your view tbh mate, as you're in a tiny minority, and it's not a view shared by fans across the spectrum. Personally I think you've painted yourself into a corner with this and you're just ploughing on based on **** all.
The number of arrests is a fair indicator of how many troublemakers you have as a club, as yes only a percentage will ever be collared but the number lifted will be representative of the total, to argue otherwise is pure nonsense. So based on the facts, you have more than we do, it's irrefutable. That incident that you've piously harped on about was a nothing, not saying it was right btw, as I hate that kind of stuff outside a ground, but it's the kind of thing you see most weeks by a selection of away fans at their bus line ffs. Plus it wasn't one way that, it was 2 way verbals. I'd not defended the coin throwing, but again it's happened all over, it's a selection of tits who can't take their ale usually. You actually posted a picture of scuffles of us at Arsenal a few years back, that was caused by home fans throwing coins btw. Fortunately it's on the wane as CCTV and better stewarding can identify the twats who do it.
If you say so. Seems to me you can't handle the fact some people have had repeated bad experiences with a selection of your traveling fan base and abused everyone in sight on the said thread. Well done on making a clip of yourself. Good day to you Tobes.
You couldn't handle the comeback and having it tuned back in you with irrefutable facts, not hearsay or images of bus queue shouts The Mackems are worse supporters than us in regards to public disorder, that's a fact, and I'll leave you with it.
See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil at Everton. Been craking fella. Get back to your dinner. Your rat is getting cold.
