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Mclaren has to go!

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Prince Isak (GG), Nov 21, 2015.

  1. General Lee Speaking

    General Lee Speaking Well-Known Member

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34985168

    Gary Neville steps into management and steps down from Sky Sports position. One of the names I had considered for us, although he'd be too smart to come into Ashley world of pain. He will do well I think.
     
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  2. It's_all_Greek_to_me

    It's_all_Greek_to_me Well-Known Member

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    I used to hate him as a player, but as a pundit he's one of the very few that are bang on pretty much all of the time. I think he'll do well.
     
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  3. Joelinton's Right Foot

    Joelinton's Right Foot Worth Every Penny

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    He was the sort of player that every fan hated - except Man United fans. We could do with some hated players like that again!
     
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  4. JakartaToon

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    Our problem is that the only people who hate our players are us.
     
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  5. daztoc

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    No manager with ANY credibility will work for Ashley and Penfold.
     
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  6. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    Neville aside. Anyone watching the Southampton Liverpool match. The intensity and quality of both sides (yes I know it's 5-1 but Liverpool have been ruthless) is streets above us. Our players are really slow compared to these players.
     
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  7. JokeInEre

    JokeInEre Well-Known Member

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    We need to sign brittsh based players ffs get a spine and build from there. When will we learn:cry:
     
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  8. Gordonthetoony

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    Salford City will miss him. Come on Hartlepool on Friday.
     
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  9. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    If McClaren gets sacked, or 'moved upstairs'... who's available that would sort your mess out and get your current squad playing well enough to stay up?
     
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  10. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    I pity anyone taking on this set of split peas. Its difficult to judge McClaren based on what he has been given.

    I suppose there is no getting away from the fact he is fairing worse than Pardew despite having a better squad however.

    Honestly I'm not sure who would take it on. I suppose the window makes it ever so slightly more attractive if given money. Its not like we are cut adrift so survival is doable...at the minute.
     
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  11. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    Moyes needs to rebuild his career. So miler club to Everton. Rodgers would be wholly the wrang candidatet
     
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  12. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Do you reckon you'd be on a better points haul under Pardew, with this same squad?
     
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  13. Captainchaos.

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    Absolutely
     
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  14. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Of course, but then in the Championship would be slighlty easier!
     
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  15. Captainchaos.

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    I don't think there's any point whatsoever in replacing mclaren because we will just hire someone of similar ilk.
     
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  16. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Well given he had us on a higher total at the same stage last year with a worse squad, I think you'd have to say almost certainly yes on all known evidence. Every season is different though and you have to consider if some players have improved or got worse.
     
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  17. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Ugly football, no thanks.
     
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  18. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    Oh ok, I didn't realise you were on a position where you had the luxury of being able to pick and choose
     
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  19. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    As a fan that's pretty much what you are tasked with surely? Would you rather watch long play ugly football in the PL, being barely entertained and finishing 13th. Or would you rather watch good quality passing football in League 2 being royally entertained? As a supporter I want the best for my team and want them to win. First and foremost though I want to watch my team putting in the effort and trying to entertain me by playing football properly. I support them either way but I prefer being entertained.

    The PL is not the be all and end all. I remember having Fat Sam as manager. Depressing and nothing to do with football.
     
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  20. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    But that's the thing, long ball doesn't equal boring and passing football doesn't mean entertainment. Look at pep era barca, some of the most boring defensive football I've ever seen. Playing percentages and having a big target man upfront with plenty of service is easy to rally behind, every ball in there is a chance something will happen, for example. Don't give me this pretentious "Newcastle way" or "West Ham way" ****e. There is a quote I can't remember who by "it's not about the short ball, it's not about the long ball, its about the right ball" or words to that effect.
     
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