He only came once as I recall, got a few half hearted boos as he warmed up - did he even get on? Agger got him at the Bridge
So the club should have sold him a year earlier if they wanted more money. Of course, you could argue it a different way; by not selling him we got his services for another year that saw us finish fourth and gain CL football. Did that help us get Rafa? Who knows, it certainly helped us lift the CL trophy the following year though.
Good post but in regards to your first sentence that's all good in a perfect world but the reality is it hasn't been that way for some time now. Players hold all of the power these days. Contracts mean almost **** all now, just determines the price that's it.
If Markovich wasn't on loan how would he Ibe & Origi all get game time considering the first three are Lala ,Couts & Firm Err Balotelli - now much as i think Klopp is the real deal it would take a mixture of Shanks , Sir Bob , Clough Stein and Fergie to get that lazy tosser to thrive - so in short no freakin chance
And they'd all been deemed failed managers after their attempts too shanks wouldn't have let on the training ground, never mind the pitch. Sir Bob and Cloughie similar. Didn't Fergie consider buying him at one point?
That's the way it's gone, but it doesn't make it right. They shouldn't sign long term multi million pound contracts and then moan if their club chooses to hold them to it. The rot set in with Bosman, the ****ing dolt.
Owen [and Gerrard] was instrumental in Rafa coming. The senior members were asked who would be a good replacement for GH and they came up with Rafa. Then Owen refuses to sign a new contract?? The club weren't looking to sell him and he made no noises that he wanted to go so going a year earlier wasn't even a remote thought. Real rang him during pre-season in America and off he went. And when he came back although he said if he played in England again it would only be for LFC, we know how that went as well. The Lovren songs last night reminded me of the Suarez chant [the one the saints fans copied, oddly] in that it's had it's day and needs to be let go.
TBF, that was our choice, we wouldn't match the £17m Newcastle were willing to pay! As much as a twat Owen is, the way he left can't be entirely blamed on him. The club allowed the situation to happen. If he wasn't going to sign then sell him and get some money, don't wait until there is one year left in the hope he'd have a change of heart. Owen also made it clear he wanted to test himself abroad rather than spending his entire career at one club. It was hardly unexpected that he left.
It's for them to decide when they 'let it go', in the same way kopites will decide at what point they stop hammering Sterling.
Owen misled the club suggesting he was going to sign and dragging it out until club was forced to sell cheap. Owen deliberated manipulated the club. Torres was honest and didn't try to manipulate club. He just let his intentions known. That's where the two contrast.
Mans got a point, can't really tell them to stop having a dig at Lovren when there's a few still miffed at Torres... If he gets a bit of "stick" as long as it isn't racist, homophobic, other forms of 'ic then its fair game..
Owen could have turned Newcastle down and forced the sale back to us instead if he really wanted to come home as he insisted at the time. Owen could also have decided to respect the fans and not play later for Manfuck United. Owen never respected Liverpool or the fans. I wouldn't have had a problem with Owen the same way I have no problem with Torres if he handled his leaving in a honest and respectable way. Instead he twisted the knife into the club and manipulated the club and was dishonest. The arse should be a politician.
Also be those that will give stick but not really give a **** either way but hope it has some sort of negative effect on their performance and it may be a bit sad but makes us as fans of the club they used to play for feel better about ourselves lol
That's what they did. They didn't wait a year. Owen said he never wanted to leave Liverpool and wanted to be a one club man but the call in pre-season from Madrid turned his head at the thought of playing with Figo, Ronaldo, Zidane and Raul. ''"It was never my intention to leave Liverpool, I had always thought I'd be a one club man.'' "I was in America on a pre-season tour when my phone rang with the news. My agent told me that Real Madrid had been in touch and wanted to sign me. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. After a week of changing my mind one way and another, I decided that if I didn't give it a go I could regret it for the rest of my life. Like Ian Rush before me, the plan was that I could always come back (well that was my plan!)"[/QUOTE]
