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Off Topic Jeremy Corbyn has the backing of House Stark!

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  1. terrifictraore

    terrifictraore Well-Known Member

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    I doubt it in all honesty, despite sisu believing in all sorts of strange ideas and banging on about freedom of speech he maintains that people who question aspects of the holocaust should be banned from doing so and even be imprisoned. Go figure!
     
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    TTP and TTIP ISDS (Investor-State dispute settlement)

    Banks and other financial institutions would be able to use provisions in the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership to block new regulations that cut into their profits, according to the text of the trade pact released this week

    Allows corporations to take action against a government without using the courts.
    Any rules they don't like they can appeal against in international tribunals staffed by friendly corporate lawyers.
    investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) system. This allows foreign companies operating in TPP member countries to enforce the agreement without using that country’s court system. Instead, corporations can sue for monetary damages in independent tribunals before corporate lawyers who can rotate between advocating for investors and judging the cases themselves
    https://theintercept.com/2015/11/06...all-street-a-trump-card-to-block-regulations/

    Where does the voter come into this process, all secretive. #bankocracy

    Could it be the banks and corporations that are dictating these agreements? Surely not?! <laugh> They ****ing wrote the agreements FFS.
    We are bystanders. Like it or lump it.

    The problem.. Government borrowing. Ever since Thatcher started off a process of flogging anything that can make a profit to cronies the borrowing has gone mental. If the government can borrow, then it need not ask us what we want or listen to us, that's patently clear.

    Whomever supplies the £££ has the say, ie the banks. 700 billion Cameron swiped from you and for what, bombs for Libya\Syria. The gov borrows money from banks and gives it to cronies in the arms industry for bombs to drop on Syria or new nukes, here's 500m to refurbish a naval base mate. <doh>

    #suckers

    I think the bottom line is if banks and corps can write agreements like these and get political endorsement on it, then it's safe to assume they also regulate (deregulate) themselves too behind the scenes.

    Any new regulation that cuts into corporate or bank profits, the tax payer gets to pay compensation.
    ****ing scam
     
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  3. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    Wish you'd keep using your obsessive research talents on real ****ing threats like this rather than being pulled off on daft tangents like 911 and flouride in the water. Do you ever think YOU might be being manipulated, Sis?
     
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  4. Tobes

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    I don't think the thought has crossed his mind that he's been conned by internet noddys with their own agendas which fuel the ridiculous conspiracy theories. He allows himself to be manipulated, as he wants their ridiculous nonsense to be true, as it suits his own agenda. He therefore constantly closes his mind to obvious logic if it doesn't suit the latest crackpot theory.
     
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    Copy and paste from blogs now equals obsessive research????
     
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  6. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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  7. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    The latest from this latter day Woodrow Wyatt:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...cs-already-decided-what-it-thinks-of-him.html

    If you really want a laugh though, see the Mail's coverage over the last week about Corbyn, poppies and Remembrance sunday. Their idea of respect for our fallen servicemen has been to turn the whole thing into a Corbyn-bashing, point-scoring, muck-raking opportunity. pass the ****ing sickbag. :emoticon-0119-puke:
     
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  8. Treble

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    At first glance it's easy to villify a man for not supporting Britain bombing ISIS. But then you pull yourself back and look at it objectively and you realise it aint our fcking war; bombing Syria is not our responsibility; bombing random targets will do little to beat ISIS and more than likely kill further innocent ppl and likely continue the cycle of terrorism on our doorstep, and finally it's just the same old 5hit again. No fcking forward thinking or new ideas other than more mayhem and destruction. Not our fcking country though (or Paris) so who cares.
     
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    I agree with Corbyn............bombing people ain't gonna sort this out at all. Cameron is a ****ing disgrace <grr> <grr>
     
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  10. Treble

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    The Labour Party is a fcking disgrace. Cameron at least is doing right by his own. Those rats in the Labour Party using this to create in-fighting and calling for Corbyn's head, are pure filth imo.
     
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    The only way to sort out ISIS is boots on the ground supported by air power. Russia and the West can provide the air power. The best troops in the area are the Kurds, but Turkey will not let them loose as they are terrified they would want their own country after ISIS are defeated. There are 40m Kurds so its a fair chunk of the Turkish population.

    The problem with Syria is those countries involved all have different agendas, and all want their own "team" in charge there because of the oil. If there was no oil none of these countries would be involved.

    Can't remember them all clamouring to save the innocents in Rwanda
     
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  12. Milk not bear jizz

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    ISIS needs to be stopped but with Russia, the US, Turkey, France, and Syria all operating in the region each with a different set of goals and objectives it would be ludicrous for Britain to get involved.

    No reason to invite trouble. If there was a common goal at play. Yes, there would be a moral obligation to help out. As it stands its too risky and No one wants the same thing.
     
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    There are fcking loads of moral obligations though. It's obvious why we cherry pick this one. Like fck are we doing it out of ANY morality.
     
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    If you want boots on the ground, I reckon you should enlist. :bandit:

    The United States France and the Britain blocked UN action on Rwanda. Sure one of the generals posted there offed himself years later, or tried to, cant remember.
    Only when the people carrying out the genocide were eventually being defeated and fled en masse, only then did the UN delcare a humanitarian disaster

    Here's what I think
    Sanction the **** out of anyone supporting the Jihadis, namely seize all saudi and UAE assets and money in western banks, Qatari too.
    Secure all borders to IS controlled regions, especally Turkey Israel as they are the most volatile of borders and much support is getting through via Turkey.
    Get Assad and Rebel forces to halt fighting each other, Russia NATO enforce no fly zone.
    Any fighting going on will be the focus of NATO the rebels Assad and Russia and they wont last long, IS will immediately almost go underground. Apparently they are already shaving their heads and beards and departing Syria in numbers because they are mercenaries, not religious loonies, Russia knocked the **** out of them and they buckled and broke.

    There is no need to send in troops into combat it will only make things worse. The forces already in the region can put an end to IS if they plan accordingly and act together.
     
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    Airstrikes work a bit like this, except imagine you also have a pile of £1 trillion burning away in the background

     
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    Someone needs to ask why in several years NATO could not strike their oil bases I asked that last year and as usual mocked, here we are a lear later and NATO still hadnt, Russia shows up and a week later IS oil infrastructure is being trashed.

    wtf like
     
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    Bombing the **** out of them.....yeah that'll stop terrorist attacks.....oh wait <doh>

    Corbyn is right, Cameron is merely sabre rattling, the French, the Russians and the Sherman's don't need our assistance, let them get on with whatever they misguidedly think is going to provide a solution to the issues of Syria and the region. For once, let's stand back and watch ffs.
     
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  18. Milk not bear jizz

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    It's probably related to not wanting to punnish Iraq by destroying their infrastructure that ISIS is squatting on.

    Russia doesn't care because they're not going to be the ones giving aid money to rebuild it once ISIS collapses.
     
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    This

    and Corbyn is getting grief from the PLP cos he keeps saying we will come to a consensus then making unilateral ( irony intended) decisions
     
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  20. Jeremy Hillary Boob

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    Not by me you weren't, not over that issue, anyway.
     
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