I'm saying that all decent sized cities with a successful football clubs can attract a lot of fans, I'm not picking and choosing anything, I think it applies to everywhere.
You think the local media being positive about the local club wouldn't help? Disinterest and negativity helps City?
Obviously. You can point to the odd daft statement, like Burnsy stirring it with his 'more likely to go down' nonsense, but they're not generally negative about the club.
I am going back over the years. Negative and indifferent. How many decent reporters have they had reporting on City in the last 40 years? Danny Fulbrook. Unfortunately the likes of Fieldhouse and James Shields were the norm most of the time.
Yeah I get that, though hadn't really considered the concessions and merchandising angle, have no real idea what level of revenue we make on a match day, but my numbers were more for a simple illustration and my point is more that whilst the current owners are 'business experts' first and football fans, ell maybe not even 2nd, I would expect them to focus on pay back of any expansion investment rather than long term benefits for the club
I'm discounting what our current owners think, as there's zero chance of the ground being expanded while they remain the owners.
A larger crowd won't necessarily equate to more merchandising. Especially if it is at high prices and poorly marketed. They can't get people served on the concourses properly either.
It's strange and probably not a true reflection, but I find far more negativity on this board than I do elsewhere. I believe that if the club had 'can-do' owners, who act in a reasonable manner, then so many of the negatives would be replaced with positives. All waiting for 10yrs (to build the success for an extension) shows, is a huge lack of confidence and ambition. It might sound surprising, but upping the concourse refreshment quality should not tax a decent CEO and his team. Re-inventing merchandising, commercial activity and ticketing is supported by lots of good evidence of success at other sporting venues - in this evidence is abundant and important. Too much effort into finding reasons why it can't be done, not enough belief in why it can and should be done.
Maybe its just being realistic. When we went into the Prem league i thought the stadium would be way to small. I think to a lot it was a novelty that has faded since.
Everyone, most importantly the club and council, singing off the same hymn sheet. Good to see the council,acknowledge the economic benefits of a PL club. Something Hull council didn't. Nothing made of being the only PL club in the largest county in England. ****wit Geraghty's response when Hull was awarded UK City Of Culture? "Hull is a great sporting city. Not only does it love its rugby league but darts and wrestling as well".
I really dont think they are Castro. Its been ongoing for a year or two now. The club dont want to pay hardly anything and want to have a cheap mortgage on it. The main difference is, according to the article, their council want to sell. Our council never did or does.
I've made a comment on there that relates to that article. I don't understand why you think it is relevant to my comments on here. Let's get rid of the elephant shall we - the relationship between the council and the Allam family is an insurmountable obstruction to expansion, so it will not happen under the current owners. Eventually the club will be sold. When that happens, it is entirely possible that reasonable people can sit down and structure a deal on stadium ownership, expansion and conditions of custodianship. It's equally reasonable that the excellent initiatives that Filey suggests could be investigated and, hopefully, embodied in the social responsibility of the club. It would be wonderful to see the club, it's supporter groups, the council(s) and the other sports g clubs, working together to develop and grow the community. Like I said think of the positives and stop focussing on the negatives, as they are generally temporary if you are determined that is what they should be.