Off Topic Dark Matter and other Astronomy information.

Not at all, I have partly dismissed what you put on bio fuel. Because the messages and information availiable is mixed, plus this looks at food production issues in isolation and disregards the impact of other farming methods have on food production and costs.

 

http://www.asbestosdisease.com.au/a...asbestos-its-safe-enough-to-eat-says-admiral/
I mean, what could go wrong!

 

Everything I've read on it points to world hunger as a major downside on biofuel production. Whatever the advantages to it are, and there are some, hunger is an unacceptable disadvantage. The sooner cellulose-based technology has been sufficiently developed, the better.

 

Repeating the same stuff has served you well, and like I said before i'm not in this for an argument.....it's a discussion

 

I don't worry about it. I don't like having my opinions manufactured for me is all.

To share and discuss such unapaltable things are part of actually getting down to the real problems, Chopra would know that. 50% of solving a problem is definining a problem.

Tha's not to say something stilly like I am trying to solve the world's problems or anything like that.

You have to talk until awareness reaches critical mass, which is about 10% to 15% of a population, then goes along by itself.

The only reason we are seeing stuff come out in the media is because everyone has been talking about it for years before hand, so it's already out there, like the fact that since 2012 I have been saying the west are supporting and supplying the nuts in Syria, and hte media has only started letting a trickly through in 2015.

This discourse is essentual to gain enough public support for anti war purposes. But the narrative is always "we need to bomb people".

Because of the cracks in the narrative, Iraq could not have been brushed over and that is why initially trying to start bombing Syria failed because people are starting to wake up thanks to the internet, the biggest threat to people who want to control everyone.

Chopra, what he says, you cannot deal with problems without thinking about them, that's the reality, it on it's whole is a positive process if it follows through to a resolution, there are so many cases of head in sand sticking in history that has led to disaster.

Right now what we are seeing is a "Strategy of tension". Put enough pressure on society and it keeps people off balance angry and afraid. That's what state terrorism is all about, creating the conditions that reduce people to such a state that they beg the state for protection. Even an event that was manufactured by a government is still terrorism by definition even if no one died.

One has to admit, you cant believe the media and cant believe the government, academia will support whatever the government wants.

is it any wonder there are truth movements and conspiracy theorists

 

Get him to read the whole Cheese thread

 

An argument is a tool for resolving a conflict, it is nothing to do with aggression.

We havea conflict of opinion and use arguments to try resolve the conflict. I didn't expect you to understand that. Your arguments are meangingless.

You have not responded by anything about Einstein, cos liek you know his stuff and know what is valid and invalid and what will DEFINITELY be around in 100 years, where as I made a GUESS, you based your 100% certaintly on absolutely NOTHING.

Baaahahahaha/

Do you still doubt food price hikes doesn't kill people?

Do you still not believe thosands of old people die every UK cold winter?

You kind of trailed off on lots of claims of yours I cleared up, you change subject and go on as if nothing happened.

Classic mouth breathing moron.

 

We know what makes you unhappy. Can you readily list as many things that give you joy or make you happy or you are thankful for?

 

Will that make him laugh or ........... give him more cause for concern ?

 

If he's normal, he'll piss himself. Come on Sis. Take on the 'Cheese Challenge'

 

meant to say yes all that stuff does affect your mood, definitely. I am not sure if I get in a mood first or the more "negative" material puts me in a bad mood.

This is more a hobby man, I can drop this and go play with the kids and **** and it's nothing. There is no overall depressing impact because this stuff takes up a small % of my time, 2 kids work wife apartment and life.

I think you might be mistaking me for a single dude with a monitor tan

 

I know you have a life [I know your kids names] but you don't give much away Maybe I've been on this thread too long this time - I'm getting a bit depressed

 

@johnsonsbaby

We'll put your positivity thing to the test, just had awesome barbie chicken bacon pizzza delivered by the most beautiful (and very friendly) pizza delivery girl I have ever seen

Feeling pretty positive right now

 

You are what you eat ..........

 

bacon and chicken?

Animal farm all over again

 

Trust me if you this is getting you depressed, then you might already have depression

 

I was thinking more of mellow and wholesome [pizza] as opposed to a curry for your lunch which would leave you fiery and hot under the collar

 

I do but that's another story....

 

But biofuel is not the only cause of

Here you go again, trying to cause an argument, well I say try. I have no argument, what I have is an opinion and I will happily discuss that with people.

Do you still doubt food price hikes doesn't kill people? Bio fuel is not the only reason behind food price increases, did you not read my earlier post?

Do you still not believe thosands of old people die every UK cold winter? I never claimed that old people dont die in winter, I also clearly asked for how many of these deaths is related to cold weather and fuel poverty? I also believe that lots of old people die in the summer, spring and autumn.....should we blame fuel poverty and the lack of cool air conditioning for the high numbers of summer deaths?

You kind of trailed off on lots of claims of yours I cleared up, you change subject and go on as if nothing happened. You never cleared them up, you shouted your views at me and informed me that as I dont agree I must be a mouth breathing moron. during the gaps in your replies you tried to change subject and as per usual ignore points raised that you have attempted to force on people as facts.

As I said, I will get round to discussions with you if I feel it is worthwhile and worthy of my time, not to feed your need for an argument. So I will put you on hold for now.

 

I don't think biofuel was ever put forward as the only cause of hunger, that would be silly. Stating that it causes hunger is a legitimate argument and saying oh but it's not the only cause is another argument entirely, which does nothing to address a significant problem the production of biofuel causes. The point of discussion was biofuel and some of it's hazards, not world hunger.

The other point you're making there about winter and cold related deaths of old people - that's well documented too. I have elderly relatives who can't afford to put their heating on in winter and sit with multiple layers on, two pairs of socks and hot water bottles. That's a legitimate argument as well, and no the cost of fuel isn't the only reason for winter deaths of the elderly [before you say that] but it has a significant impact. It's also why the government started giving out winter fuel payments to pensioners.