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Article: How Next Year Can Be Our Year | Football, Liverpool

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  1. KingPepeReina.

    KingPepeReina. Active Member

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    I was just explaining to Schofield what pressure is.Man United it seems are going to be under a lot of pressure in the coming months. Giggs and Ferguson and United ''Ambassador'' Bryan ''Captain Crutches'' Robson all facing prison.Rooney facing the divorce courts when the whore he was banging destroys him.Its going to be interesting.
     
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  2. David Schofield

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    I used the example of a Penalty.

    But when Torres, the best Centre Forward in the World, can't trap a bag of cement, is it because he has suddenly become a park player?

    Or is it that the spotlight, the focus of attention, is beaming down on his every move, watching with great relish when he misses a chance he was burying previously, and suddenly it becomes too much and he is stuck in a moment that he can't get out of?

    Pressure does funny things to people, and when it is taken away the results are always favourable.

    There will be pressure at LFC this coming season that simply did not exist over the previous 6 months, and it will have an effect on results, it is human nature, and there is no escaping it.
     
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  3. Bozz

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    a 6 month honeymoon period??? behave! honeymoon periods are a myth, case in point when was Roy Hodgson's? he had us messing around in the relegation zone with virtually the same squad as Kenny
     
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  4. David Schofield

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    Talking of pressure, you can't seriously state that he 'had the same squad 'and fail to compare the conditions Hodgson was working under with that of Dalglish, your Club was imploding.
     
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  5. RushFowlerGerrard

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    managing Liverpool mid season with a disillusioned team in some danger of relegation or at least a lower half finish is pressure so I disagree. Too easy to trot out crap like that.
     
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  6. Bozz

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    I'm not comparing the conditions. Roy did come in at a stressful time. Roy's job (one which he liked to remind us that he has been doing for 35 years) was to not transfer the conditions behind the scenes to on the pitch, this is something he failed in doing. Kenny had pressure thrust upon him. The Owners expected! After paying off Roy with quite a sum of money (for failing) they expect a sharp turn around. The pressure on Kenny (who was only on a temp contract at this point). Kenny had to lift the team away from the relegation battle, you only need to look to a team like Birmingham (who you'd have bet your house on staying up last season before a ball was kicked after their 9th placed finish the season before) to see how difficult that can be. he then had the pressure of proving those in the media wrong. Articles like This and This would have only heaped more pressure on him. To say he was not under any real pressure is fascicle as had he had failed then it would have been all to easy for FSG to employ someone who fitted their "criteria" better then the 60 year old scot.
     
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  7. Jonesey

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    In a word - No

    Do you want to know why?

    The reasoning is simple.
    All we expect is for Kenny to carry on in the same fashion as he did for the last 5 months of last season.
    If he does, we'll be champions.
    Get used to it.
     
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  8. Ze

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    So why did he continue to work terribly when FSG were in charge?
     
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  9. Bozz

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    Because his ""honeymoon period"" was over... </sarcasm>
     
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  10. Ze

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    Honestly David Schofield - you must be playing Devil's advocate now, because I don't know how anyone can say we didn't have pressure on.

    We were 12th, the team lacked confidence, we had a misfiring striker, we played dire football, we were in danger of relegation (look towards the end of the season, bottom 9 teams were in danger), a new manager comes in to rectify this. Are you suggesting he had no pressure? If the manager has pressure then so does the team.

    There is pressure every season for a top 4 finish, there was pressure last season and there will be pressure next season. It's something Liverpool are accustomed too, so don't suggest we will falter simply because of pressure.
     
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  11. merrysupersteve

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    Well, if you add on all those points to games where you should have gained more points, then to the same token, there is every chance that you will drop points at grounds you gained them on last year. Will you do the double over Chelsea? Will you beat United? Will you beat City? Will you get a point at the Emirates? None of these things are certain. It's a 2 way street. You can't just add points willy nilly for games you think you should win, adding the tally to your finishing total, without accounting for potential points dropped in games you won last season.
     
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  12. terrifictraore

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    They say you learn something new everyday, today I have learnt that "playing devils advocate" is also a euphemism for talking utter bolloxs!
     
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  13. timmy5x

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    I recon we should give it a go, afterall we have one of the best forwards in the world in suarez, one of the best midfielders in Gerrard, one of the best keepers with Reina and the rest of the team is solid now.
    No one expected us to win the CL in 2005 but we came back from 3-0 down in the best final of all time. No one expects us to win the title next year but i feel as though we are in with a chance at least, all it need's is a bit of belief and desire. Most of us would be happy to get back in the CL next year especialy after the last few seasons, but if i'm honest i wont be truely happy untill we win the PL.
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

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    I don't think the point about "pressure" is fair or well thought out.

    1. "pressure" whats that? threat of relegation, pressure to get top 4? what?

    2. hodgson came in without muh pressure but guess what he heaped it on himself in spades, everytime he opened his mouth he increased it.

    3. Dalglish only had the pressure of the fans lifted compared to hodgson, we were behind him. he had to do all the work of bringing us together etc and save the club from relegation.

    4. there is an entirely different pressure between ust being mid table playing out the year, competing for europe(top 4)/honours and finally figihting relegation.

    It is simply unfair to say dalglish had no pressure on compared to hodgson. to be frank hodgson brough 90% of it on himself with bad decisions and bad play. Dlalgish had to clean up the mess but he could have walked away in May so he had an out.

    BUT THIS YEAR, there's a whole new scenario and pressure so the question WUMS come up with is will he crack... I refer them to blackburn, didn't crack, newcastle where despite thier irate fans he did as well adn ANYONE there, got to fa cup final and if sir bobby robson couldn't get them any further well.....

    in the end if people are bringing up points like this one its cos they have somewher ein the back of their mind a fear about us.
     
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  15. King_Kenny

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    pressure? honeymon periods?

    Is there anything tanglible in this thread???
     
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  16. KingPepeReina.

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    I had a post removed for saying that Schofield is thick.I stand by that opinion.
     
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  17. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    You also can't assume all the other teams will be as bad as they were last year. Chelsea's total of 71 points was the lowest for a team finishing second in a decade. Even if you do get 72 points, that is most likely only going to be good enough for 3rd or 4th place, and there have been seasons (07/08 was the most recent) when it wasn't even enough for 4th...
     
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  18. Jonesey

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    The only sane way to approach a new season is simply one game at a time.

    Try your 100% best to get a result every week, then see where you are in May.
     
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  19. saintanton

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    I don't think he's thick- I think he's on the wind-up. If we keep answering him he'll keep doing it I suppose. Hard to resist though sometimes.
     
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  20. KingPepeReina.

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    Actually I lied,I didn't say he was thick....I said that he's like Wayne Rooney and David Beckham..he's got a learning disability.Its obvious both have,Rooney can't start a sentence without eeeeeeeeeeeemmmmmmmmmmmmmmm and Beckham has still to speak his first two syllable word.
     
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