The uproar was after they beat Chelsea and they drew you guys and it wasn't chosen for TV. They stamped their feet because they thought they deserved the match televised after beating Chelsea, like it's some sort of merit and reward policy... it's a sport, funded by media juggernauts, not some giant game of pass the parcel.
Talking about 'it's not fair' ( and I know that I'm asking for trouble here ) . . . . http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Jilted John - Gordon is a moron&FORM=VIRE5#view=detail&mid=98B6F99B3CF8376D28D698B6F99B3CF8376D28D6
There'll always be people prepared to moan on behalf of others mate. Jeremy Corbyn will equally distribute football money to lower league sides and make players get paid in daffodils when he gets in charge, they'll have their day.
But all you're outlining is how inconsistent the BBC are which only reinforcing the resentment towards the bbc and their practices. The beef here is clearly with the bbc not Salford. People want the bbc to show the passion of the fa cup. But they're clearly putting business before the passion which is a big problem to many people. Discarded Salford and apply the situation to any other club and people's sentiment would remain the same. The FA cup can tell a 1000 stories. At the moment the BBC are only intrested in the one that's going to make them money. People who still embrace the passion want variation, they want different stories because that's what it's all about. That's not a dig at Salford. If anything it shows how far down the ladder the business has eaten the sport. I understand why they do it, I don't like it, I've accepted it, but I've long since come to terms that the game i fell in love is long gone. Replaced with a much uglier version.
That's not ALL I'm outlining at all Bri, I'm highlighting the fact that some people have an inherant nature to back an underdog because they cannot accept the fact that things are not equal in this world. The FA Cup isn't a ****ing charity to distribute money to teams who are struggling. Let me pick a random fixture... Newport County vs Brackley Town... anybody here reckon this game would pull in as many viewers as Salford vs Hartlepool? No. Well that's all BBC care about. Aldershot/Bradford vs Chesham isn't the game BT Sport chose to show, instead they're putting on Rochdale vs Bury... a crappy local derby. They're not getting any **** directed at them for this decision, because people subscribe to that channel, yet because BBC is 'free to air' people are up in arms because the BBC are doing what's best for them and their own ratings. Did you watch the Salford game? There was a world class goal in it and a lad in the crowd threw a cup of tea over one of the players who kicked a ball at him, that's high quality entertainment, that's not business before passion, that's just choosing entertainment over some idealistic equality ****e.
But haven't i just made that point about it being used as business? Some people don't like that. That's all I'm saying. I'm on the fence here. Salford Vs Hartlepool may stand out to you, but it doesn't to me. So isn't it subjective as to whether it's the best tie to show? Think Cumbrian was a way over the top. But a lot of people just want a bit more variation and I get it. People who don't have sky have to watch Salford twice in a row, they're entitled to want to see a different side being shown. If there was no documentary there's no way Salford would have been shown twice in a row. That's the business in this fella, not the tie itself. This tie is about TV profit not football. Surely you can see that. When the BBC are doing it so far down the ladder with a competition they famously profess to embrace. I think it's a bit harsh to label folk as just having whinge on others behalf. Scratch the surface and dig a bit deeper you might find it people complaining on their own behalf and who are still struggling to come to terms that this is no longer a sport, it's just a business pawn to be manipulated to make other people money. Unfortunately for them they need to come to terms that the game has changed. They'll feel better once they've let go. I did. But it used to make me really really angry.
Did you not see the cup of tea incident? It was comedy gold Fair points mate, I just lack empathy in sports mate, I don't see the need for any equality in sports, sports are all about competition and a hierarchy. I can just feel too much 'PC' eeking it's way into sports and that'll truly kill the game. Every team must have an Asian, a woman, a bloke in a wheelchair, a black person and a vegetarian pie option.
I see both sides. I love the honorable sentiments from the traditionalists let's call them. But footy has changed, nowt we can do but enjoy it for what it is.
"It's only cause they are so far up the arses of the Class of 92 that they are totally obsessed with all things connected with Manure". That's not the words of a traditionalist, that's the words of a bitter, angry, do-gooder.
Yeah but that isn't the sentiment I was lending my understanding to. Post 29, I tried disagreeing with those sentiments but apparently that made me some kind of opinion Hitler. In some warped world where aisagreeing with someone apparently equates to me trying suppress their opinion when fact is it's just one poster stamping his feet that somebody didn't agree with him as they're completely incapable of debate themselves.
Being able to debate objectively is the key, I challenged him to disprove my theory of them targeting viewing figures and he never did it, he just ignored it. He prefers to sit in his chair blaming United for everything, then claim he doesn't 'hate manure'. The fact is, he's come on here with a rage on because he thinks United have dictated somehow, the FA Cup draw indirectly because the BBC **** over us. That's not the case, they've backed their own horse and I see no problem with that. If Sunderland draw Salford in the next round, there'll be hype all over it, I hope it happens because I'll be waiting for them all to say 'Salford have had their 15 minutes'. I know you're looking at it from both sides mate, I can see, sort of why people would want other smaller teams to benefit, but that's not sport... it's just charity then.
It's a bit like mother nature in the wild animal kingdom. The strong survive while the weak fall by the wayside. Nobody says 'Ooh, help that little zebra with the gammy leg as the lions will target it.' That said, everything needs feeding.
I would say it is that they are just looking out for their mates who are now running Salford.. I couldn't give a ****e about them to be honest and will be backing the North East side against them..However, I would like to see the BBC show other none league sides, and do think it is unfair that the most well funded one is being given the extra TV money.. My views have sod all to do with my feelings on Man U as they are indifferent to be honest.
You're getting more and more bitter and angry day by day TJ Ease up mate, you'll put yourself in an early grave. And you with a new wife!
When the third round comes up, they will be forgotten, the beeb will only show premier league clubs and they have to lay the bull on as they show nowt else, ITV meanwhile have less
am i missing something here? How does the bbc showing Salford in the FA cup make the bbc money? Are they now showing ads? Unless im missing something this is clearly a daft discussion. I quite often miss the point in fairness, so stand to be corrected.
The match necessarily doesn't make them money directly. Yeah they take a license fee but they also sell programmes overseas, such as Top Gear for example which was shown all around the world, plus they sell box sets and so on. My whole point about Salford FC the documentary revolves around commerce but seems to be overlooked for some reason.
For the record, this Bradford tie is ****ing awful so far, an absolute bag of **** and their ground is completely empty. if this was on the BBC they'd have been crucified for picking this game.
