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  1. hullk

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    Problem is, some of those bottom clubs at the minute are big clubs that pay good wages compared to our lot and their wage cuts and play in front of 40,000, Sunnerlan' and Big Sam might fancy Mo if he does another 2 months injury free for example, Dawson is a desirable centre-half still for a bottom half club, Elmo was making noises about leaving pre-season, Robertson has no shortage of suitors, some could feel Hudds is worth a punt as his game is a little more suited to top flight footie and his form this season could be overlooked, Hernandez will be attracting the abroad market with his goal tally, and we certainly gave the cheapish release clauses enough publicity for everyone to know they can get a chat with the player with a bid. It might only take one or two leaving for the faith in another 5 months of team promotion form to dissipate within the squad and incite these players to leave?

    Pessimistic as f*ck recently me. Think it's 'cos we're winning...
     
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  2. tigerbalm

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    With the lull of the Internationals here, I think now is a good time to look to the future. Who is in danger of leaving in January?

    In my opinion we could easily loose 3 or 4. Hopefully not, and if we are top in Jan hopefully players will see the danger of going to lower half prem teams.
     
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    Big Sam and Mo fell out at West Ham big time, the chances of Mo going to Sunderland specifically are nil!
     
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    Are you blind or ******ed or something. He came on off the bench against Boro last Saturday and scored a ****ing screamer. Arguebly the best goal of the match<doh>
     
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  5. Steve.R

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    Can't see anyone wanting to leave of their own accord, that would be mental, a winners medal and promotion on their cv would mean a lot more financially to them in the long run against a few weeks of higher wages at a new club.
     
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    We are top so our players will be under scrutiny, anybody thinking nobody will leave is pretty naive to say the least (French Tickler). I think Elmo and one of Davies or Dawson will go, Diame is red listed but might have fallen slightly off the radar with his lay-off. Hernandez will go if somebody pays the money for him, can't see it so I reckon we might hang onto him. We have the likes of Maloney and Snodgrass to come in to the team when certain players go but it could be Bruce might need to sign another centre-back if we lose one one of the DADA pair. I think Huddlestone might stay given his fairly undramatic last 20 months or so but again that could be a blessing as it looks like he is better suited to an attack minded role going on recent weeks
     
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    Are you blind or ******ed or something, his comment was posted on Friday...
     
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    As a blind ****** I take offence on both counts. And in case you are wondering, my guide dog is typing this as I dictate to him.
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  11. Trumpton Tiger.

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    If someone wants to leave then let them go. City will be there about at the top of the league come January and possibly a few points clear at the top.
    There is no way on Gods earth that the owners will not strengthen if Steve Bruce requests a couple more players. The prize at the end of the season is colossal and by January we will be half way there.
    If a player goes they will be replaced.
    Don't panic, Pike.
     
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  12. originallambrettaman

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    Hull City: Ten Tigers out of contract next summer

    For all the good things going on around Hull City at the moment – there is a potentially ugly situation lurking in the background.

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    Since the Allams purchased the club in 2010 their footballing decisions have been immeasurably better than those made in the boardroom. However one area they have struggled with – or simply do not place importance on – is the renewal of contracts. Only a handful of players including James Chester, Liam Rosenior and Alex Bruce have had their deals renewed since the Allams arrived.

    Matt Fryatt and Stephen Quinn have walked away in the past two summers and others such as James Chester and Robbie Brady have had to be sold because the single year remaining on their contracts has left the club unprotected.

    The situation looks set to be worse than ever this summer with ten senior players out of contract. Given the individual circumstances surrounding each player, the reduced wages currently being paid and the uncertainty over the level of income the club will receive next season – there isn’t a simple answer.

    Here’s a look at the ten players in question:

    Ahmed Elmohamady

    It’s hard to imagine a City team without “Elmo”. He’s become a fixture of the team for the better part of three years and his energy, athleticism and versatility make him a vital part of the team. The word is that he changed his agent in the summer and, despite him making signs of his happiness in Hull, his manager felt his “head had been turned” by transfer speculation.

    Securing Elmo should be number one on the club’s priority list. He’s often the best attacking weapon in the team and it would be a major blow to lose a player of his quality. Either for nothing at the end of the season or more worryingly – for a relatively small fee in January. Elmo’s low risk and large reward.

    David Meyler

    His contribution has often been under-valued since he joined City from Sunderland along with Elmo in the autumn of 2012. It seems some feel that City have achieved promotion, survival, a Wembley final and European football in spite of a player who has clocked up a hundred appearances in black and amber without ever letting anyone down. Hopefully the team’s resurgence in the past few weeks since Meyler and the returning Jake Livermore revitalised our midfield has made admirers out of some doubters.

    Meyler is settled at City and always committed. He’s nowhere near the highest earner and, most importantly, he’s worth having whether City stay in the Championship or get promoted again. There’s no excuse for not sorting this one out ASAP.

    Curtis Davies

    Davies’ return to the kind of form he showed during his brilliant first season in Hull has put the club in a position no-one expected last summer. After that superb debut season, the big central half quickly fell from grace. Some pointed to his disappointment at not being offered a new contract in the summer of 2014 while I always felt the arrival of Michael Dawson on the sort of money Davies was hankering for pushed his nose out of joint.

    Whatever the reason, he disappointed massively last season and spent half of it as a mere spectator. He’s turned that around since the departure of James Chester opened up a major role for him again and has reminded everyone of just how good he is. Whether he’ll now stay beyond the summer is doubtful though. He’s commented openly about the lack of a contract offer from the club and doesn’t appear to feel particularly wanted. He has elements of his life down South and in the Midlands and I think he’ll move on.

    Tom Huddlestone

    The enigma. How on earth a player with the natural ability Huddlestone possesses has ended up in the Championship is a quandary. That he’s currently struggling to get a game at this level, albeit in what is currently the best team, is mystifying. However that is the situation he finds himself in and no-one who has watched him regularly for the last twenty-two months would offer any sort of argument against it being completely just.

    His contractual situation isn’t a simple one for either party. City wouldn’t want Huddlestone’s wage on the books if they remain in the Championship and it’s debatable whether they’d see him as a worthwhile investment in the Premier League these days. Tom isn’t going to sign a deal on the reduced wages he and his team mates currently find themselves. Sadly it seems inevitable that they’ll part ways in June. Tom should have been the most talented player any of us had ever seen represent The Tigers. Shoulda. Coulda. Wouldn’t.

    Allan McGregor

    Another whose City career has been revitalised after a poor season last time and an appalling start to the current one. He tested Steve Bruce’s management and the gaffer showed faith in him when he needed it and has been rewarded. In August, McGregor’s standing amongst City fans ranged somewhere between Paul Duffen and Mark Hateley. However since he re-found the form that had fans purring two years ago – we’ve formed a case of mass amnesia.

    Even a month ago I doubted whether anyone, fans or management, cared whether he left in the summer. There’ll be very few now who feel that way. He’s another for whom the situation isn’t simple. He’s on reduced money and probably has one decent move in him before he spends a decade wandering the six yard boxes of the Outer Hebrides or wherever it is that Rangers are playing that week. I think he’ll only stay if City are promoted.

    Eldin Jakupovic

    This season’s penalty hero has never made a big impression on Steve Bruce and never got a sniff of the first team in the league even with Allan McGregor’s troubles this season. He is a cheap and cheerful back-up goalie though and there’s a good chance he’ll be offered something. Especially if City are promoted and look to carry three ‘keepers again. He may fancy going somewhere he might actually play though.

    Sone Aluko

    Once the most exciting member of The Tigers’ forward line, Aluko has struggled for form and fitness for the better part of three seasons. Having made such an explosive start to his career here, it will be a shame to see it go out with a whimper but his bit-part role doesn’t do much to suggest that keeping him beyond the end of the season is on anyone’s agenda.

    He had a chance to make an impact after relegation with the club playing at a level at which we’ve all seen him excel. He’s not grasped the mettle and it’s hard to make a case for him doing so at this point.

    Ryan Taylor

    When he joined in the summer everyone was worried about his fitness coming off two serious knee injuries. That hasn’t been a problem so far. He’s just struggled to get into the team. Taylor is known for his versatility but at the moment, he’s just not as good as someone else in several positions. He’s the wrong side of thirty and, in truth, has been one of the poorest signings Steve Bruce has made here.

    Calaum Jahraldo-Martin & Conor Townsend

    The summer could be the end of the line for exciting winger CJM and athletic left-back Townsend. Both turn 23 before the end of the season and despite strong performances for the club’s U21 side and never letting anyone down during fleeting first team appearances both are as far from a senior breakthrough as ever.

    Sadly we’re at the stage where both need to move on and find regular first-team action if they aren’t going to get it at City. Townsend has been unlucky not to have had an opportunity before now and you certainly feel like if it was going to happen for him then it would have been earlier this season when The Tigers’ squad was paper-thin.

    Rick Skelton

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  13. tigerbalm

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    Worrying, even more with 18 months left on their contracts i would assume?
     
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    I don't think it's a worry, it's normal to review these things as a player is entering his last year, but these are the players with eighteen months...

    2017 - Dawson, Michael
    2017 - Diame, Mohamed
    2017 - Hernandez, Abel
    2017 - Lenihan, Brian
    2017 - Livermore, Jake
    2017 - Maguire, Harry
    2017 - Maloney, Shaun
    2017 - Robertson, Andrew
    2017 - Snodgrass, Robert
     
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  15. Irememberwaggy

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    Maybe I'm going senile but I think that it's a fabulously healthy position for the club to be in. In January we'll have a clearer idea of which League we are likely to be in next season. If it looks like we'll stay in the Championship than it will be a good time to have a fire sale & sell many of the players to reduce our debt. If there is still a good chance of us going up to the Premier league then the players, if anyone comes in for them, will have to make a choice - whether to stay with a team on the way up or jump ship to a team likely to be on the way down, as they are the only teams likely to want to buy in January. Either way, as far as is possible in this player/agent dominated age, the club will be in its strongest position to negotiate.
     
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    We'll have no more idea than we have now, the league doesn't end until May.

    You are going senile.
     
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  17. Irememberwaggy

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    I don't deny the senility bit, but by the end of January we will have played 29 games compared to our current 16 so I would suggest that this will give us a better idea than we have now?
     
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    You can't get promoted in January, your league position in January tells you how well you've done up until the end of January, nothing more.
     
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    Which is a much better indicator than at the mid-November point. All we're talking about here is likelihoods.
     
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    Championship table Jan 2015...

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    Tells you nothing.
     
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