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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by TheSecondStain, Jul 15, 2014.

  1. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Nope, didn't mean that at all. What I meant was that the average person has a very average or laissez-faire view of the environment, in my experience. Not perhaps by being uncaring but by not having the time or inclination to wade through the minefield of confusion that is out there. I think you know that's what I meant because I wear my political views on my sleeve, as you say. As it happens, I co-own a VW van and frankly I feel a bit let down by VW, even though my vehicle isn't a diesel or of a age where it would be one fitted with any possible emissions cheat device.

    As to my keeness of motorcycling, let's put my noisy, smokey old bike into perspective. I have ridden 6000 irresponsible miles in 6 years of ownership on it. Everywhere else I ride a pushbike to get about, or I walk. I don't have a car by choice [made about 12 years ago] because I don't want to help clog up the roads. I make that choice because I am able to. I quite realise some people can't through their family commitments. I am no environmental monk or Greenpeace activist, but I take the environment a little more seriously than the average person, I believe. I may be wrong, but I think so. And I will continue to remind people about the fragility of their environment if it makes the tiniest difference, as is my right on a public forum, within a thread where we aren't speaking about football. Surely we all want to live in better surroundings.

    Now, if you'd like to pursue the conversation perhaps you'll PM me as I suggested earlier so that we don't clog up this thread. Ta.
     
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  2. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    Good decision. Be interesting what year you get and what you pay for the mileage on it.
     
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  3. tiggermaster

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    Report states Russian athletes take drugs shock. I'm just so shocked, I can't believe it's true, there must be some mistake. The Olympics will never be the same. Can I get my money back for being defrauded in 2012? I had no idea I was watching drug cheats.. and people at the top 'covered it up', may be took bribes. What is the world coming to? Is it too much to hope that those who run international sporting organisations should be honest?
     
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  4. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    'Ere, where's that PompeyLapras laddie gone.?
     
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  5. Schrodinger's Cat

    Schrodinger's Cat Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I'd be very interested in seeing just how fast somebody could become using performance enhancing drugs openly. If there was a competition for drug users, and another for clean athletes I'd watch both.
    Obviously the health implications of using performance enhancing substances are something to consider however if it was consenting adults who went down the enhanced route then it would be down to them to take the health consequences.
    I don't like drugs in sport generally because it is only some people that do it so it is not a level playing field however if it was a legal option then we would see some tremendous times run or distances jumped. Also, if it was out in the open, then some of the hazards would be diminished due to drug regulation and testing.
    It would have to be separate from unenhanced athletics but could be a valid exciting athletics competition.
     
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  6. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    In the past, Russia was forcing athletes to take drugs. Young female gymnasts were given treatments that damaged them for ever just so they would stay child like. It is noticeable now how female gymnasts look more normal and feminine now compared to the 60s and 70s.
     
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  7. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    And East Germany. They took organised drug administering to a new level.
     
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  8. Piebacca

    Piebacca Well-Known Member

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    Some are downright curvy these days.
     
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  9. Onionman

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    Not as quiet as it should be because your manufacturer games the noise test. Look at ANY bike's power curves and at bang on half peak power there'll be a dip or at best a levelling of the torque curve. That's because bike noise is tested at half peak power. So, your bike can be noisier at high revs just because Honda played the testing regime so that at the precise revs where it's measured, the sound output is artificially low. Here's one at random (the first result on google image search for vfr750 power curve). Peak power 10K revs, big dip in torque at 5K revs (where they test the noise pollution emitted by the bike)

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    All of that is factual. Disprove a word of it. So when you get on your high horse about VW, remember that you benefit in terms of having a more powerful bike thanks to engineers gaming a pollution test.

    Vin
     

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  10. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    Not seen him for ages, hope he's OK.

    I am hoping that he has fallen deeply in love with the girl of his dreams who fully reciprocates his affections, and he therefore has no time to come on this forum any more.
     
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  11. Onionman

    Onionman Well-Known Member

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    You serious? You want to make comments (as is your "right on a public forum") on a thread that isn't about football but any disagreement needs to be in private or it'll clog up the thread (the one that isn't about football)?

    Four legs good,two legs bad.

    If you weren't a mod I'd tell you to **** off.

    Vin
     
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  12. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Yeah, same here.
     
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  13. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Bloody hell, now we're into diagrams. :)

    Look, you have your views. I really don't care, is that all right.? :)
     
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  14. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    If you PM you can. :)
     
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  15. Onionman

    Onionman Well-Known Member

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    This is your argument style writ large. I've watched you do this countless times, not just to me. You make a sweeping, unsupportable statement on a political/ecological/whatever subject. Someone proves you wrong (you know, with boring stuff like facts). You do one of two things.

    1. "I can't believe you're taking this seriously"

    2. "Lalalalalalala, I can't hear you".

    You've combined the two here.

    I work very hard not to get personal on this forum so the following is a bit of an exception for me.

    You really should know that you look like a bit of a twat every single time you do it, whether it's to me or anyone else on here.

    Anyway, enough, I have a life to get on with.
     
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  16. Onionman

    Onionman Well-Known Member

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    **** off
     
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  17. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Vin. You obviously have some sort of personal thing about me which rubs you up the wrong way. Why not PM me and we'll talk it over. Or can't we agree to disagree.?
     
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  18. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    steady... they're also quite young :)
     
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  19. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    Me too, but I also hope she is a Saints fan, has been taking him to games because he hasn't admitted his blueness yet and he's too darn scared to admit it :)
     
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  20. It’s Only A Game

    It’s Only A Game Well-Known Member

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    Here's hoping
     
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