I think youre living in dreamland there It was £10 and a pound for swansea plus 10.000 free and we still had over 8.000 empty seats Increased capacity will come when safe standing passes through parliament and so why spend millions
That is due to the seats. The noisy fans are not sat together whereas when there wasn't a roof and all the kop was terracing the noisy fans would congregate. I think you are mixing up your ideas. Other things being equal - a roof is noisier than no roof; Other things being equal - standing is noisier than sitting.
That's not strictly true Peter. They also have to consider other issues such as the available facilities as well as entrance, exit, distance to access, egress and places of safety. I know it's a drum I bang, but this lack of flexibility was one of a fair number of short comings pointed out when the stand move was proposed.
I know there are various things that need to be in each section but it would make sense to ideally have them there anyway throughout the ground and then it's just a question of closing the gates between home and away fans. All this "let the fans go to another section to get out of the ground or use the toilets is nonsense".
It was the way the stadium was built with no regards given to segregation or making accommodating different levels of away support. Eat my earlier post. His is why when in the bottom league we had a handful of Swansea fan in a corner, 23,000 in a 25,400 capacity stadium with 2,000 locked out.
The highest ever decibel count recorded at a football match was at a ground in Turkey in a stadium which holds 32,000 with no roof. Replaced the previous record set at Anfileld some years before. Meanwhile fans in a 40,000 all seater stadium with no roof and one side open and with virtually no spectators down it manage to create an atmosphere. How many stadiums with a roof in this country, even the Emirates with 50% more capacity create as much atmosphere. Watching the crowd the reason is obvious. Everyone joins in.
I repeat, it is down to the poor original design. Myself and another poster on here we both know wrote to the ?HDM predicting exactly these problems. Of course this was greeted by the usual gang of FC fans and ****ers who support Leeds, Man .Utd etc declaring it wouldn't be a problem as City would never get near filling it. One FC and White ****e supporting tossed even said the only way to fill the stadium would be to ask Leeds United to move there (LOL) or when the biggest Derby in the universe and everywhere else was played there. Equally laughable as due to unreserved seating FC v Rovers games are restricted to 23,500 nd not once havebtheybreached that figure.
You are totally missing my point. I'm not saying that some clubs don't have noisier fans than others. I'm saying that if clubs create a lot of noise with no roof then they would create even more noise with the addition of a roof especially if it is covering all the fans and leaning down to enclose the fans like at Brentford or in the Kempton.
I'm not disagreeing with you. I still think that the problems can be put right. It's not a good idea to say that the problems are down to the original poor design and we shouldn't change anything.
A set of fans who all join in will make more noise than a load sat like they are at the theatre be it with a roof or not, in an all seater stadium or not. You won't get a modern stadium built with a roof like the Kempton or at Brentford built nowadays for various reasons.
If any Boro fans are daft enough to get into the home areas and make it known who they are they wont be around for long.
Who is going to pay for the alterations necessary though? Mr Allam won't, and why should he, he doesn't own the stadium and we don't fill it every week. The council won't as the only concern of ****wits like Geraghty is that it meets the needs of FC. The twat even said there was no case to extend the KC as City had never had a capacity crowd. Ignoring the fact that all the home tickets were sold for virtually every PL game,and for many games could have sold thousands more, but the police and SAG wouldn't let City occupy extra seats when the away allocation was sold out and insisted on a ridiculous amount of segregation.
No club has no fans who sing. I've explained that fans who don't sing are not relevant to how loud they will be. Liverpool were going to build a stadium that had the new kop designed with acoustics in mind. The stand may not be like Brentford or Kempton but it was taking into account what was possible.
Run by us how many times Boro fans have been on the run inside the ground at a match against City. I can't recall any going back to the late 1960s.
Of course paying for it is a different issue. The SMC has still got a 37 year lease remaining. It's not like they can't increase the lease relatively easily. Would the council move in Rovers or North Ferriby instead? The Allam's should pay. What has not filling it every week got to do with it? Attendances are dependent on price. They could get higher attendances by lowering the prices.
