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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Jeremy Hillary Boob, Nov 4, 2015.

  1. Bodinki

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    Indeed.
    They are a pox on us all.
     
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  2. Yeah, but @Bodanki gets offended when you point it out <whistle>
     
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  3. Bodinki

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    Not really, just wondering what your assertion is based on?

    If you want to try to ease the shame of this by saying "Well, X club has more racists!" then be my guest.
    Odd route to take but never mind.
     
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  4. See :)
     
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  5. Bodinki

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    No because you haven't said <laugh>
     
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  6. Red Hadron Collider

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    What's he got to do with it?
     
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  7. johnsonsbaby

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    tbf - his colour was picked on to abuse him but it wasn't the cause of the abuse. He was being abused because some see him as a traitor or mercenary, call it what you will, and as usually happens, the most obvious physical feature is used to aim abuse, in his case, his colour. Had they not used his colour but abused him online anyway, it would still be idiotic and wrong, the fact colour was used makes it disgraceful. The man on the train was abused for being black - no other reason, he'd done nothing to Chelsea or it's fans. But make no mistake, both sets of fans, yours and ours in these two cases are united by racism whatever the perceived harm d [if any!] has been done. I feel ashamed for both.
     
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  8. Exactly, but you're still biting <laugh>
     
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    Abuse and the usual faux moral outrage is tribal cack I agree there but racism is not. Racism just is
     
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  10. There is no excuse for what happened to Raheem. No excuse at all.

    However, I do partly agree with you in that, the issue would never have been highlighted by the media had racism not been involved
     
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    I am sure that will make him feel so much better. <laugh>
    I get what you are saying, but whether they used racial slurs because he left their football club, or tried to get on their train carriage, makes little difference, as BBF said, racism is racism. And resorting to that is disgusting.
    I don't see how you can function as a normal human being if you harbour racist tendencies that strongly these days.
    This country is full of people from all ethnicities, it must be extremely tiring choosing to hate on a select group of people based purely on aesthetics (not to mention ******ed).

    I doubt many, if any, of the twats on the train go around burning crosses. More likely they were drunk and thought it would be funny to kick the guy off the train because they are asshats, then sung that vile song because he was black. That doesn't excuse their actions one iota.
     
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    I don't think I made an excuse did I :huh:
    I'm not sure what I said but you both seem to think I was making an excuse for the racist remarks, I definitely was not - so my wording didn't come across as I meant it to, sorry. The bit you've highlighted here was a direct response from me to the bit I highlighted in your post about black players being wary of pulling on the shirt or whatever. It wasn't meant to be a general comment.

    I agree with everything you've said here and I thought my last post showed that I made no distinction between whether there's a perceived reason for racist abuse or no reason for it whatsoever. It's all wrong.
     
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  13. Never said you did <ok>
     
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  14. johnsonsbaby

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    I must have misread your previous post then because when you said this - ''There is no excuse for what happened to Raheem. No excuse at all. However, I do partly agree with you in that ....'' It looked like you thought I was making an excuse, probably because of the word 'however' and the fact that you only 'partly agreed' with what I said :emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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  15. Partly part was because it could have been taken that you were making an excuse. However, having read your stuff for a while, I knew that wasn't what you was doing. Others may not have read it in the same way <ok>
     
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    OK thanks. Things don't always read back the way it sounded in my head when I wrote them but I wasn't making an excuse. <ok>
     
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    Let's be honest, Sterling was a bad apple at LFC, always in trouble with the plod and smoking shisa's after the club told him not to etc, LFC treated him well, they even gave him a mid-season paid for holiday to the Caribbean.
    But along with his agent he dragged our club through the mud in pursuit of his move to City, the **** didn't even sign a transfer request which entitled him to a "loyalty" bonus and a percentage of his transfer fee when he finally left for City.

    I dislike the little ****er for those reasons just like I disliked Owen and McMannaman for running their contracts down to for a move, but the bellends using racial slurs because he **** on LFC shows they were racist underneath whether he stayed or left otherwise they'd have just called him a swearword rather than refer to his skin colour.

    No doubt when he gets booed playing against us for City it will be manipulated as racism by many, but they should remember the stick Owen got and further back the stick Keegan got before they consider us ALL being racist.
     
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  18. johnsonsbaby

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    Very well put.

    In days gone by, most expressed their private feelings to their mates, now it has to go worldwide. This here twitter malarkey's got a lot to answer for <ok>
     
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    <laugh>

    It used to be word of mouth or the letters column of the pink echo.<whistle>
     
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  20. johnsonsbaby

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    Ah the pink echo - happy days. Do you remember on the front top right they had a cartoon of a kopite and the Everton toffee woman, their expression reflected the result of both games - usually the kopite whirling his football rattle and the woman scowling <whistle>
     
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