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Ehab and the parachute payments...

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Oct 30, 2015.

  1. originallambrettaman

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    It's the same issue and it was no misunderstanding, it was a deliberate slap in the face.
     
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  2. DMD

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    Given the Prem are happy with it, you clearly misunderstood something about how it was to be spent.

    For me, it's a waste of an argument. It's gone, the Prem aren't going to act. It has to be more productive to take that on the chin, and look for ways to move forward with the owners. All that continuing as is will do is make your positions more entrenched, which isn't productive.

    Perhaps another way of looking at it could be to use their own argument, and try to expand the away fan experience to home fans and get an atmosphere built up in the ground.
     
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    How many more times should the FANS leave what has gone before in the past? how many more times should the FANS look for ways to move forwards? The club is the multi million pound business, run by smart business men who grew a business from nothing to being a world leader worth millions before he bought the club. It's about time the CLUB gave some thought as to how they can improve the match day experience for those who pay to attend.
     
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  4. DMD

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    It all depends on which bit's you take and which you ignore. Some say the away fans moving to the north east corner was for the benefit of home fans. The lighting scheme, over and above what was required was for home fans.

    The ASI fund, whatever anyone thinks of it, has seemingly been spent in a way the prem accept, so pushing it as an issue in itself is futile. There are bigger and better issues to tackle, and confrontation is not a method that will have too much success.
     
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    Get to **** Dutch, that makes it neither morally or ethically right.
     
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    So, what specifically do you propose to do about it? Complain to the Prem, who mention it as a success?

    It's a symptom, not a cause.
     
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    There's nothing that can be done about it, it's been and gone, however it drove that large wedge just a little deeper.
     
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  8. DMD

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    Nothing can be done about the ASI, like it or not, it's something the Prem are okay with. What can be done is that lessons can be learned. Maybe a change of tack is required to move things forward.
     
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    I'm all for that Dutch, but are the Allam's?
     
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  10. RicardoHCAFC

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    With these tables they should really publish what the allocation was as well. QPR and Bolton for example don't look great compared to us when you see the distances, but given they were derbies and the size of the grounds they could be basically sold out for their games. Maybe the same for Wolves as well if the away end at Birmingham is only 2k.
     
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    QPR was a sell-out at Brentford, Brum's away end is 3,000, Preston can accommodate up to 6,000 but they might well limit that for a derby game.
     
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    Would Wolves get 3k for Birmigham though, or would PC Plod and Detective Completly Incompetent ****wit have limited them in case people tried to do perfectly legal things in public?
     
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    Quite possibly.
     
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  14. Muffinthegoat

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    I learned lessons from the ASI debacle, that the FWG was a waste of my time and that the people responsible for the decisions lie/deliberately mislead their own employees.
     
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    Spot on. Not only that but they use their employees to front up for their lies. I'd love to see Ehab come to one of them and try to explain his lies.
     
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    Spot on.

    Also, if the course you take is good, then why change tack? If you don't believe your compass (FWG) then why consult it? Once you arrive at your destination, will your travelling customers be pleased or complimented by the gesture you made for folk on another journey.

    Are folk easily placated by a scarf? Some were.
     
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    Changing tack is generally done to make best headway on a given bearing depending on the wind. Not changing tack could well leave passengers in the wrong port.

    Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results.
     
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    I think we all know what their attitude towards our away following is. However what a poor business decision it was from supposedly talented businessmen. Given our situation last season they should have been doing everything they could to encourage away support. Our relegation was marginal last season, a better result in one game would have made a difference.
    I am obviously not blaming our relegation on that but when you listen to a coach like Dave Brailsford talk about marginal gains it shows how the smallest decisions can have an impact on results and its so important to have everyone pulling together.
     
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    Why would an experienced and self-proclaimed navigator of industry and commerce, take a perfectly good customer relations initiative and steer it into a predictably turbulent and negative exercise in pithy management? You don't change tack unnecessarily, especially when the only hot air and bluster blows from a constantly unpredictable boardroom and the core wind of support is right behind the obvious way forward.

    But yes, constantly pissing off your customer-base is a sure sign of commercial insanity.
     
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  20. DMD

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    I've suggested time and again that unity is key.
    Fans pulling in the same direction as the team has to be a plus. Finding fault with everything at the club will only divide.

    There's plenty that unites us all, or at least there should be.
     
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