Scholes would make a very poor manager. Not leader of men is he? I remember watching Bobby as being one of the best players at that time. But would I offer him a managers job? No chance. And as a pundit? No chance either. This is not to diss two of the best footballers that have ever played the game. Gary Neville reads the game well. He doesn't need to follow the consensus. I've said it before. When the team is sliding, the top priority is points. And if LVG doesn't do wins + flair, then so be it. I can accept it from LVG in the short term.
Scholes is an excellent pundit. His delivery is dry but what he has to say is insightful. When he's not working to some mad agenda so is Keane. Proper football men who understand the game. Not biased dinosaurs like Lawro!
I don't think Scholes is. He's not really a talker and it shows. I don't doubt he knows the game but it is very much from a players perspective, which isn't always compatible with a managers. Keane's just a loon. Always looking for a fight. He will disagree for the sake of it. Sometimes its great and he's actually making a fair point but other times he looks bitter. Hargreaves is quite possibly the worst of all our former players though. Owen rambles but Hargreaves seems to have a grudge. Not sure why when he was paid to do almost nothing during his time here.
Watching Scholes talk is distasterously boring, never came across as particularly insightful. I don't doubt his understanding of the game but he ain't great at getting it out.
There's no denying Rooney is on a decline , van gaals style or not. Van gaal's style has even made it worse. U can't blame van gaal for Rooney's inability to control the ball, or for his lack of pace, or for his inability to shoot or beat a defender. I been saying this, the managers philosophy would not allow too many players to flourish. This is why I don't really blame di Maria for opting to leave because he knows he will never flourish under this system. Every good players we bought have turned to **** under van gaal.
Not many good pundits out there at all, BT Sports seem to be collecting the very worst of them though. Sky have done well with the Neville Carra thing as it works and is quite funny at times.
Yeh I think the point being missed is their knowledge has nothing to do with them being boring or being a c*unt. They know their football. Scholes greatest quality as a player was his passing and creativity. So when he talks about the quality of our passing and creativity this isnt punditry, this is the master of his field describing first hand from his own experience. It's like saying Van Gogh doesnt know anything about painting because he was a bit of c*nt.
Tbh Neville is now over-compensating for being a red. He goes out of his way to appease the Skysports faithful, sometimes to the point of being wrong about decisions, tackling and player performances.
But we all get it wrong mate, I still think he's the best pundit out there (spit) and does still quite clearly love Utd still and does at times seem to want to lay into you in order to show that he's fair but then again he does at times have a valid point.
It's not so much that he gets it wrong, it's that he's doing it deliberately to carry favour with everyone and build his own reputation. He is a very good pundit but imo not always in those games involving United. Btw I dont see what Scholes has said as the same as talking about pundits. Scholes was giving an interview to BBC Radio Manchester. He was simply giving a general observation on our lack of creativity, how it's not a team that is set up to beat men, would be difficult for someone like RVN to score, and the fact he wouldnt have enjoyed playing in a side like this. There's not much to disagree about there.
Not so sure on the Neville thing, I think he just says what he thinks and sometimes gets it wrong. Scholes is wrong to have a go it does your club no good whether he's right or wrong.
I don't want to labour the point but I'd be amazed if you can recall any contentious decision in which he's favoured United. I can probably name half a dozen when he's looked for playing to the rivals. It's often subtle and could be easily overlooked. An innocuous tackle by Smalling in the box, nothing in it, and he'll go to the replay and say..."ooh he was lucky to get away with that, that should have been a penalty". The game moves on and nobody thinks anything more of it bcos it was a nothing incident... or it becomes the talking point at half-time. Ofcourse he'll do it in other games too, but not to the same extent and usually when it's been a 50/50 decision which is fair enough. Whether Scholes is right ot wrong to have a go is a different debate, but what he's saying is true nonetheless.
What bunch of BS!!!! And please don't mention Di Maria. The ****er is a bottler. Check out his form at PSG. He started ever so well like he was giving United the finger.. Fast forward, he is now just as sh%t as it he turned out at United as time went on. So I guess that is the manager's fault too. Two managers, and similar outcomes. As for Rooney; I'm disgusted that Scholes felt the need to defend Rooney at the expense of the Manager. Like WTF??? Rooney has started every fkin game in his so called preferred position. When given the ball to shoot, he miscues. When left one on one with the goal keeper, he fluffs!!! I would actually go as far as saying that Rooney is the reason why United are not scoring. LVG's insistence to stick by him is holding back the team. SAF would have dropped him without a question of a doubt. So United played two games and didn't score and all of a sudden the the world is coming down. This is the same team that scored freely in all matches (bar PSV) in September. And for all the dooms day, they are two points behind the MIGHTY City and the "Unbeatable" Arsenal. As for the cup match, United players had enough chances to have put that game away. Is that the manager's fault too? I guess we could blame him for having shhh players we can't bury the chances. But to blame the system to me is just plain ret##red when so many clear chances go begging. The Arsenal game that we lost, I actually enjoyed the game. We lost our heads in 20 minutes, but overall, there were positives from the game. And I'm confident that if played again, the scoreline would not be the same. Yes, United need to be more brave going forward and take more shots. But do we want shooting for shooting sake like Liverpool. Didn't pool have something like ridiculous 40 something shots at goal and still couldn't score not long ago? I guess what would help is constructive criticism rather than the gung-ho BS approach from the media and ex-players. But the most disappointing is ex-legend coming out to say he wouldn't want to play in the current team. Seriously WTF? Go and play for City then!!! How the fk is that constructive for the players and the club? But hey, it's all too easy to just talk shhh this days and get paid for it.
I hate to piss on your chips here but recently released stats show that we are not at all creating many chances, have one of the fewest shots on target in the whole league and, far from scoring freely, we've only scored more than three goals once all season. But then I guess this is all entirely down to Rooney. I must say though, I guess I had my eyes closed when he has been missing as many sitters as you suggest.
Scholes has given all of us great pleasure as a player. He was one of the greatest United and premiership players ever. But if you are a United 'legend' and you have a role as an ambassador of the club, you cannot go out and openly criticise the manager or even indirectly the club. Treble can and I can. But as a player respected by the fans and players alike, open criticism like that make him look like a Pratt .
And scholes, unlike you and treble, can go and speak with the manager, assistant or others at the club...
If you want to argue that openly criticising LVG is wrong from Scholes then that's fair enough. It doesn't change the fact that he's right though. If all we're going to do is slate him for giving his opinion then that kind of misses the point of what he's actually said.
I think you've missed the point by pointing out that he is right about a million times. It is often not the message, it is how it is delivered and who is delivering it. That itself outweighs significance of an actual message. BTW, for stats that I got from this current Palace game, United went 3 games without scoring in 2005. If we listen to all the commentaries, one would think it had never happened before and would never have happened under Fergie.
