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True legends in the game known as football?

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  1. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    How many goals would Ronaldo have scored if he played in Pele's day for Santos and NY Cosmos?

    I'll start the bidding off at 3,500
     
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  2. Brian Storm

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    Was always a big Tony Yeboah fan. He was way better than Leeds and Hamburg. He should have joined Man U. Did Leeds refuse to sell to you when you were interested Tel?
     
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  3. Bexinio

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    Clarence Seedorf, 3 champions league winners medals with 3 different teams.

    Maradona, not popular among us Brits, but what a player who lifted national and club sides to way above their level.
     
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    Ginger?
     
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  5. red&white wanderer

    red&white wanderer Well-Known Member

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    IMO '73 FA Cup winners; Shackleton Clough ,Matthews ,Lofthouse ,Slim Jim ........................Niall Quinn, SKP , Hooliooooooo .....so many - true legends stick in your memories as well - these are true football legends for me
     
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    Whole Brazil world cup 1970 team....played the game the way it should be played.....
     
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    Toto Schillachi.
     
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    Just for you Terry.

    Bobby Charlton
    George Best
    Bryan Robson (loved watching this fella play)
    Ryan Giggs
     
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    Billy Jones......
     
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    My Dad always used to rave about Garincha, seen some clips of him and he looked fantastic in his day
     
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    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> Don't be silly. :p
     
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  12. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Meanwhile Messi is due in court for tax evasion. <ok>
     
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  13. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Excellent.
     
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    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    We all have our own opinions of true legends.
    How many are they ? There really is no answer.
    I could name a few and again I could leave some out but here we go
    Pele I don't particularly like his views
    Puskass
    De Setefano
    Eusebio
    Bobby charlton
    Maradona I'm sad to say.
    Christiano ronaldo
    Messi
    I'll stick with those
    <bubbly>
     
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    Dont think Messi should be on that list.

    Not only has he not won any titles with his national team, but he has only ever played (and been tested) for one team. He has got bags of talent, can't deny that, but I dont think he can be classed as legend status.

    Ronaldo hasn't done much for his national team either, but he has at least proved himself in more than one league, and based on his goals scored for Real, he has a better record in La Liga
    Messi: 321 Apps and 289 goals
    Ronaldo: 209 Apps and 232 goals
     
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    dansafcman Well-Known Member

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    Ronaldo :

    Philanthropy
    Television footage of the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami showed an eight-year-old boy survivor named Martunis wearing a No. 7 Portuguese football shirt who was stranded for 19 days after his family was killed. Following this, Ronaldo visited Aceh, Indonesia, to raise funds for rehabilitation and reconstruction.[527][528] After accepting undisclosed damages from a libel case against The Sun newspaper in 2008, Ronaldo donated the damages to a charity in Madeira.[529] In 2009, Ronaldo donated £100,000 to the hospital that saved his mother's life in Madeira following her battle with cancer, so that they could build a cancer centre on the island.[530] In support of the victims of the 2010 Madeira flood, Ronaldo pledged to play in a charity match in Madeira between the Primeira Liga club FC Portoand players from Madeiran-based clubs Marítimo and Nacional.[531]

    In 2012, Ronaldo and his agent paid for specialist treatment for a nine-year-old Canarian boy with apparently terminal cancer.[532] In November 2012, Ronaldo sold the golden boot he had won in 2011 for €1.5 million and gave the money to fund schools for children in Gaza.[533] In December 2012, Ronaldo joined FIFA's '11 for Health' programme to raise awareness amongst kids of how to steer clear of conditions including drug addiction, HIV, malaria and obesity.[534][535]

    In January 2013, Ronaldo became Save the Children's new Global Artist Ambassador, in which he hopes to help fight child hunger and obesity.[536] In March, Ronaldo agreed to be the ambassador for The Mangrove Care Forum in Indonesia, an organisation aiming to raise awareness of mangrove conservation.[537]

    In November 2014, Ronaldo appeared in FIFA's "11 against Ebola" campaign with a selection of top football players from around the world, including Neymar, Gareth Bale, Xavi and African superstar Didier Drogba.[538] Under the slogan "Together, we can beat Ebola", FIFA's campaign was done in conjunction with the Confederation of African Football and health experts, with the players holding up eleven messages to raise awareness of the disease and ways to combat it.[538]


    Messi:

    Charity
    Throughout his career, Messi has been involved in charitable efforts aimed at vulnerable children, a commitment that stems in part from the medical difficulties he faced in his own childhood. Since 2004, he has contributed his time and finances to the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF), an organisation with which Barcelona also have a strong association.[326][327] Messi has served as a UNICEF goodwill ambassadorsince his appointment in March 2010, completing his first field mission for the organisation four months later as he travelled to Haiti to bring public awareness to the plight of the country's children in the wake of therecent earthquake. He has since participated in UNICEF campaigns targeting HIV prevention, education, and the social inclusion of disabled children.[328] To celebrate his son's first birthday, in November 2013, Messi and Thiago were part of a publicity campaign to raise awareness of mortality rates among disadvantaged children.[329]

    In addition to his work with UNICEF, Messi founded his own charitable organisation, the Leo Messi Foundation, which supports access to health care, education, and sport for children.[330] It was established in 2007 following a visit Messi paid to a hospital for terminally ill children in Boston, an experience that resonated with him to the point that he decided to reinvest part of his earnings into society.[324] Through his foundation, Messi has awarded research grants, financed medical training, and invested in the development of medical centres and projects in Argentina, Spain, and elsewhere in the world.[324][331] In addition to his own fundraising activities, such as his global "Messi and Friends" football matches, his foundation receives financial support from various companies to which he has assigned his name in endorsement agreements, with Adidas as their main sponsor.[332][333]

    Messi has also invested in youth football in Argentina: he financially supports Sarmiento, a football club based in the Rosario neighbourhood where he was born, committing in 2013 to the refurbishment of their facilities and the installation of all-weather pitches, and funds the management of several youth players at Newell's Old Boys and rival club Rosario Central, as well as at River Plate and Boca Juniors in Buenos Aires.[324] At Newell's Old Boys, his boyhood club, he funded the 2012 construction of a new gymnasium and a dormitory inside the club's stadium for their youth academy. His former youth coach at Newell's, Ernesto Vecchio, is employed by the Leo Messi Foundation as a talent scout for young players.[9]
     
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  17. Tel (they/them)

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    As well as tax evasion.
     
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    Besty!!!!! How could I have forgotten Besty???? <doh>
     
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  19. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Look at Terrys new avatar.
     
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  20. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    It's in the name mate, number 1.
     
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