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Match Day Thread Norwich City v West Bromwich Albion

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by KIO, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. KIO

    KIO Well-Known Member

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    Today relegation was confirmed IMO.

    Perhaps Alex Neil has been 'found out'?

    As I posted earlier, today was a 'must win', we will now definitely be deep in the do do come December. Lack of investment up front and definitely at the back will be our downfall, McNally over to you <ok>
     
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  2. ThaiCanary

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    I don't think there is anything he can do to be honest.
    When we play attacking football were hit on the break.
    When we are more cautious but still trying to take the initiative we are still too vulnerable at the back.
    No point in sitting back and playing to not lose as we are still too vulnerable at the back.

    We don't have enough players to "cut it", as you said thanks to the transfer policy. Each player has his good days and in some games most of them will have a good game and we might win, but it is too rare that we have more than half the team having a really good game.
     
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  3. ThaiCanary

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    I thought the same earlier today, lose and we are really in the mire.
     
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  4. Phuketcanary

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    i really think we are now. I can't help but think our players with 'prem' experience are over estimating their own ability a little too much. We dont have the skill to play through 7 defenders in the area, so we need to break quickly, and out work other teams.

    We can't afford to languish in midfield, stroking the ball around, as this just ends up in us standing around the semi passing it back and forth before either tettey or howson succumb to delusions of grandeur and blast it over the net from distance.

    Or we decide to 'have a go' pop it out left for the inevitable cross and then stand like shop mannequins in the hope that fate will steer the resulting crap shoot onto one of our heads at a fortuitous angle.

    Every now and then Redmond will show everyone up by actually running with the ball into the area, only to discover that if a shot isn't on within seconds, no one else has made any move of merit, and the defenders are free from any other pressing task to casually shepherd him off around the peripheries again, until frustration gets the better of him.

    Hoolahan will every now and then attempt to thread the ball past the stalwart line of defenders, but on these occasions there is rarely more than one player who has realised that this is a tactical option that exists in the game of football, and risen from their slumber accordingly.

    You will see more exciting and sudden positional shifts and variation from a pregnant womens aqua-robics class than our lot today.
     
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  5. Forgot_My_Lines

    Forgot_My_Lines Well-Known Member

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    Agree mate. I often get a lot of guff about my comments about the team and transfers and how we play. I'm not against the manager. I really want him to stay as our manager. That's pretty much my biggest worry. If we carry on like this (with the teams coming up we will) he's going to be under so much pressure, and might even get sacked. I don't think we would get a manager like him to take over. He is very very young, he has so much i loved about lambert, he is blunt, honest, stern. He must have motivational impact to pick up our squad last season. He's having a really bad period, and I really hope he can turn it around. I just cant see how he can with the squad we have!
     
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  6. Canary Rob

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    The idea that relegation has been confirmed is ridiculous - there are several very poor teams that will be down there at the end of the season, and it looks like the bottom five now.

    But any ideas of a nice comfortable mid-table season has been well and truly dispelled.

    The problem is, we need to be on top of our game against the teams around us. We went down under Hughton because we weren't putting to bed matches we were dominant in. We won't get relegated by these last two games - it will be the games where we threw away points that will cost us.
     
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  7. KIO

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    Which team(s) is(are) worse than us Rob?
     
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  8. Forgot_My_Lines

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    That's what I keep thinking. Sunderland....Gonna improve under big Sam, and wouldn't be surprised if they survived. Can only pray it too little too late that he has an effect. Bournemouth, we can only hope they keep getting these terrible injuries.....Villa, we can home they keep Tim, and they struggle on for a while longer so they don't pick up many points. That's the only fantasy I can think of, but still, we will need to actually have shots on target and score some goals. also, learn how to mark and defend. It really is hard to find hope at the moment.
     
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  9. ThaiCanary

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    Villa are the only obvious candidate
    Lets see if Newcastle really are going to be resurgent, Sam can get the Cats going in the right direction, and Bournemouth can cope with the injuries.
     
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  10. Canary Rob

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    I actually didn't say any were worse, I just said the bottom five were all poor, but I am confident that Villa and Sunderland are worse. Possibly Bournemouth too.

    But as we know from our relegation season, having a better team doesn't get you points on the board. We need points.
     
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  11. KIO

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    Dale's on #canarycall we're gonna finish in the top ten, well we can all sleep soundly then <laugh>
     
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    Good point, well made mate <ok>
     
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    i think we also need to accept that the price of a fit for purpose prem striker is north of 10m nowadays, unless you have a very astute scouting network. West broms match winner today? 12m. Until we realise this our squad will remain a strong championship one, and a vulnerable premier league one.
     
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    NCFC are a very good Championship side but a poor Premiership team. There are clearly many reasons for this but I think we must accept that we will most probably be back in the Championship next season. If others disagree then ask yourself are there three teams worse than us?
     
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    If we finish 17th, we´ll have had a great season, which actually has always been the case, despite an awful lot of big talking from some quarters, so naturally it´s not over yet, but as soon as possible, the board need to understand that we´re lacking quality players in all departments, and really push out the boat in January to bring some in. To keep assuming and hoping that this current crop will be good enough, is very risky imo, and whatever it takes, make sure we hang on to A. Neil, a change of manager is not what we need at the moment.
     
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  16. ColkOfTheBarclay

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    The problem we have is we keep trying to impose ourselves on games. Makes sense when you think our Midfiled is generally our best area but it means all teams have to do is soak up the pressure and break against our relatively slow defence. The defence isn't really strong enough to play like Leicester or Palace or West Ham, breaking from deep with wide players, but that's probably our best shot at the moment. Jarvis and Redmond need space to play in, as does Wes.

    I'd say Villa are definitely worse, though they will no doubt change manager and suddenly go on a ten game winning streak, Sunderland could do anything now, with Big Sam, though I still fancy them to go down (Probably foolish based on recent seasons) and I still think Newcastle are a worse team than us, we were just so awful on the day against them that we made them look like world beaters.

    I can see Swansea getting pulled into the mire on current form and our game against them next month will be crucial, win that and we give ourselves some belief and bring a rival down with us, as well as lifting us in a tough run of games.

    For our next game I's go with Wisdom, Bennet, Bassong and Brady as the defence. Martin was alright today but he still made poor mistakes and was way out of position for Brom's goal. I also can't wait for Mulumbu to be fit as I think a midfield duo of him and Tettey could be really solid. You put 4 attackers ahead of them and say "Go and do what you do best, you've got the cover".
     
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  17. Russ Martin 2

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    The consensus seems to be are that we are in relegation trouble so out of interest what does everybody think is the reason(s) why?

    The manager (I think he's done pretty well tactically aside from the Newcastle game. Would hate to see him sacked, particularly at this stage)? Terrible use of set pieces?

    I honestly think that if we had the right personnel we could be finishing 12th rather than desperately struggling for 17th.
     
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  18. Gambia Canary

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    We needed serious investment from the Board during the summer, but very little was forthcoming. Her Magesty will sit on her dollars making millions while the team yoyos. The staff and players shared 11 million pounds after the promotion. The idea that Her Magesty is still doing this out of kindness to keep little Norwich up there is a very sick joke imo. We need new owners who have ambition.
     
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    I think it's incredibly arrogant of those who assumed this season would be anything like plain sailing. Why us and not ten or so other teams, many of whom have far deeper pockets than Norwich?

    A few games we were a lick of paint away from another point or two, maybe even three. As it is, our club should get themselves prepared for a dogfight.

    We had some kind opening fixtures. Those are gone now and we are about three/four points away from being relatively comfortable.

    My greatest concern is whether we can adapt to scrap a bit more. We have played ten very open games of football. I don't fancy our chances unless we begin to approach some games more tight and cohesive.

    Our mix of players isn't bad. We look really good going forward. We simply don't look like keeping clean sheets. We concede cheap goals, set piece goals and loads of counter-attack goals. That's a recipe for relegation unless we adjust.

    I also fear for the form of a few players. Dorrans was great at the start of the season, but not surprised he was dropped after his last few games. Howson has been a bit hot/cold recently. Hoolahan seems to be more comfortable with Jerome than Mbokani. Bassong increasingly jittery. Martin even worse.

    But let's keep our feet on the ground. We didn't lose without a fight today. We made good chances. We defended well at times. No need to get desperate just yet. It won't be an easy season. It was never likely to be an easy season.
     
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    <laugh> When did you go down under Hughton?

    You were outside the dropzone when you lot turned on him... Going to be the same with your current boss, eh?

    You'd think fanbases would learn from our **** fans when it comes to hounding out management <ok>
     
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