Good example. There's a top player who has shown from very early on that he is in fact a top player. It may take him a while to fulfil his potential but he's been good enough since he was a teenager to play in the PL and he will stay at that level throughout his career. I know some of you slate Barkley just to wind Tobes up but those of you whose primary reason for watching football isn't to hate someone or something know that he's a ****ing superb player!
... Lallana, Veron, Solda-do-do, Carroll, Gareth Barry (ffs), Milner, Bogard, ... plenty of examples of older or bang average players being sold for inflated 'market prices' ...
Bad examples most of them (barring Lallana obviously) Plus Vardy is 29 in Jan, he'd therefore have no sell on value. Only the top players on the planet generate those sorts of fees at that age ffs. Vardy is nothing more than the current 'flavour of the month' striker. His stats will drift back into the 'bang average' category before the season is out
Not saying he's a worldie, imo he has worked hard to become a very good player, he has clearly worked on his game and fitness and is now reaping the rewards. Take a look at his goals, that comes with work on the training ground. As far as the Engerland thing goes then why not take him, so many of the established Engerland forwards fail everytime that it might well be worth taking a chance on a form player.
WHAT! someone said something negative about Vardy!!! please log in to view this image Hes your modern day Ian Wright and people like seeing the "non-league, comes good" type of players. He certainly isn't doing too badly at the moment and i just hope he continues to do well for the club. As for England, the way Vardy plays doesn't fit into the ethos. Woy doesn't like his strikers to give 100% and defend from the front or show any sign of effort /sacasm Until Woy realises that England aren't the best footballing nation in the world and that our possession style play will be easily beaten by better sides, theres no point in taking Vardy. If England play like Cheslea did when they won the Champions league (solid defence, hit on the counter) then Vardy or Walcott are a shoo in, as it stands at the moment, we are in for another European championship of scraping through the group with narrow victories and getting schooled in the knockouts.
He's compared to Ian Wright as he played non-league football until a relatively late stage of his career before getting into the top flight. The differences though are stark. Wright played second division football from the age of 22 and top flight football from the age of 24. Vardy made the Championship at 25 and the PL at 27. Wright's goal a game average in the second division was 2.5, Vardy's was 3.2. Wright's record for Palace (I'll ignore his time at Arsenal) was 1.9. Vardy's for Leicester is 3.1. The lad's doing well and going through a purple patch. It's a bit over the top to be comparing him to Ian Wright or putting a transfer value of £25-30million on him. He deserves a chance with England in the same way Paul Warhurst did.
Vardy is not the next Ian Wright .. he is THE Jamie Vardy ... records are there to be broken ... just because it has taken him this long in his career to make it to the top table is more of a sad indictment of the nature of footballing talent spotting and recognition in this country than a reflection of ability ... surely proven by the fact that he is now riping it up and is unquestionably currently the most English striker in the Premier League? ...he is incredibly quick (given his age) and combines this with both agression and an enviable work ethic ... there is nobody quite like him in the EPL .. ... also worth mentioning that Ian Wright benefitted from being in a team that was consistently challenging for the title, if not winning it ... and had the incomparable Dennis Bergkamp supplying him with bullets not to mention Overmars, Ljungberg, Petit etc (which I've done anyway ) ... ... wonder how Wrighty would have fared in a mid-table side ...
The stats I quoted were for Wright's time at Palace. I ignored his Arsenal career as that would have made the comparison between him and Vardy even more laughable.
... and as I inferred... totally different players ... Vardy is capable of getting the ball on half way and outspeeding the defenders into the box ... Wright more a genuine fox-in-the box ... If Vards gets into the England squad it should be because of his unique attributes, not comparisons with past players, however good ... Might I humbly suggest that Wayne Rooney would be bench warming if strikers such as Ian Wright, Shearer, Lineker and Michael Owen were still around and in their pomp ... but they are not ... the current crop of England strikers are distinctly average ..
Behave mate. Vardy got 5 goals last season, come back when he's netted consistently over the course of at least 1 full season.
No. We would have lost yesterday under Rodgers. Probably heavily. We haven't dealt well with attacking teams.
I was really referring to the age at which you might make it etc ... but actually it is still a valid point ... my own personal view is that Bobby Charlton is still England's best goalscorer ... because he notched all thse goals from a midfiel position and also in games that really mattered ... Wayne may have the most numerically ... but that record will get broken in time ...
Agree Still early days but Mignolet was unrecognisable. He said Klopp had energised the side and that was certainly the case with him.
.. he was the bloke right at the back in a different coloured shirt to the rest of them ... as he always is ...
No ... I thought you had made a less than complimentary remark about him much earlier ... I'm just making the point that England's current best striker is distictly average at World Level and rather ineffectual in key games ... if Rooney is the best we've got then Vards is worth consideration when compared to both him and those considered less good ...
