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Article: Why do some people try to defend Mike Ashley? - Football, Newcastle United

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Heavy Metal Toon, Jul 19, 2011.

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  1. Nah, if you read the article, you'll see that the 35m isn't directly mentioned.
     
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  2. Blacker-than-Knight

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    Tash

    With regard to the P&L's and the corresponding annual accounts that have been published since MA took over can you show where he has taken money out of the club and how much?
     
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  3. The Armband

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    Yeah but it's quite obvious that's what it's about. The club's done some great business this summer so far, without spending too much. I can see us making a couple more good ones frankly
     
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  4. It's partially about that, but if you read the article you'll see i go into detail into far more than that. Also read some of the comments i've made in the comments sections.
     
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  5. Beatski

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    whilst i agree with parts, the whole article's clearly about money

    also, you ask why people try to defend MA, then give reasons to do so...
     
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  6. No, i said i don't think it's right to criticize Ashley for everything that's gone wrong at the club, and that i agree with the people that say shut up insulting Ashley when something goes wrong.

    I wasn't defending him, just trying to be reasonable to an extent.

    Anyway lads i'm off for tonight. I'll answer some more users if people decide to raise any points.
     
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  7. overseasTOON

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    Why do solicitors defend accused rapists, murderers and Sun journalists?

    Innocent until proven guilty once ALL the facts are available.

    Very few facts have been made public but his previous seems to sway the judgement of the jury before a valid assessment can be made.
     
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  8. Washysafc

    Washysafc Well-Known Member

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    To be fair to Ashley I think the mistake he made was not looking at the books when he bought the club. Basically it seems as if you had hidden debts and a very fat wage bill.

    While he obviously has plenty of money he is no mug and after the farce ofrelegation he has put you onto a solid financial footing and that will give you stability with stability comes progress. I think he is some thing like a quarter of a billion out of pocket with his investment in the club. So give the guy some credit.

    But on the other hand as he is from London call hom all you want LOL
     
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  9. Jarramag88

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    Nothing was hidden from him, he just rushed in and never took the due diligence to check everything over. In that respect, it's his own fault. We as fans are now suffering for it now though.
     
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    Jarra are you refering me to poont 1 or point 2?
     
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  11. Jarramag88

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    You won't find a toon fan anywhere who defends mike Ashley. There is absolutely NOTHING we can do to change how he runs our football club. There is NOTHING we can do to influence his decision making. All we do is try to make the best of a bad situation to get some justification in our own minds about why he does what he does.
     
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  12. Jarramag88

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    Point one mate.

    The debt was on the books. He just never checked everything out thoroughly enough. More fool him.
     
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  13. The Secret Ingredient

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    just gonna copy and paste this for every why does everyone love/defend/stick up for/etc etc

    hate the man but why blame him for all our woes(a lot of the financial **** we're still trying to get out of was created by the previous regime),do the blinkered haters prefer to have shephard back?Newcastle has always had years of mismanagement even as far back as Seymour and Mckeag the one constant apart from hall (but not totally blameless)with Newcastle is we've always had **** owners just some of us can remember worse owners than the fat **** that's in charge now and just because we don't slate everything he does doesn't mean we like him and to just blame him for everything and slate fans for so called sticking up for him is very short-sighted
     
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  14. Frank_Pingel_Legend

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    It's been said, it seems, a million times but the only thing that will influence Ashley is turning up to an empty stadium on match day. It's never going to happen though. People defend Ashley because it makes them feel better about being walked over. It's as simple as that.
     
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  15. 2010 tops dog

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    I agree 100%
     
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  16. Jarramag88

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    This pretty much sums it all up for me.
     
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    to be honest i don't really see a lot of ashley being defended just people not going over board and blaming the board for every little thing and then being slated for being ashley lovers for stating the fact that it was this,that or the other rather than blaming the fat one for everything that goes wrong ..example i saw the other day player doesn't sign as his agent was being a greedy bastard and it's ashley fault <doh> now i hate the guy but how the **** is it his fault
     
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  18. Albert's Chip Shop

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    My view is simple... He is a bit of a clown and at times a total **** but he's stopped us going bust... This I know as business is my thing.
    I'm not a lover of him at all but on business I respect him.
    Fast forward 3 years and we will be in a very sound position indeed.
    I also think he will sell in the next 12 months too, once the last of the big earners leave.
    I'm not Cwarr by any measure as I'm just another punter with a viewpoint.
     
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  19. biggeordiedave

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    I think what pisses most people off is the lack of communication. If people at the club would just be honest, we'd all be a lot happier. We get told one thing, then watch the exact opposite happening. It's not all Ashley's fault, far from it, but it'd be nice to know what's going on at times.
     
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  20. Amnesiac

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    I don't get it, we can't change the fact he owns the club, so why make silly articles like this and just get over the fact he is a clown at times but has his plus points too? It's been done to death, can't we just leave it now?
     
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