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Russian Troops are in Ukraine and have been for some considerable time, that's a fact, yet Russia flatly denies it.

That's Russia for you.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that his country has not deployed any troops in Crimea recently and has no plans to annex the peninsula.
MOSCOW, March 4 (RIA Novosti) – Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that his country has not deployed any troops in Crimea recently and has no plans to annex the peninsula. Ukrainian officials and media have claimed in recent days that clandestine Russian army troops without insignias were deployed in the southeastern Ukrainian region, which has a majority ethnic Russian population. When asked about the identity of the troops, Putin told a press conference that they are “local militias.” They are wearing Russian-style fatigues because such attire is available in army shops across the former Soviet Union, Putin said.

Putin Finally Admits To Sending Troops To Crimea
Apr. 17, 2014
Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that Russian forces had been deployed to Crimea last month to support local defense teams, the first time he has admitted such involvement by Russia. Putin had repeatedly denied sending any forces to Crimea ahead of the March referendum there that eventually led to the region's annexation by Russia. Putin said the troops were deployed to protect Russian-speaking citizens in Crimea.
"Of course we had our servicemen behind the self-defense units of Crimea," Putin said during an annual televised call-in with the nation on Thursday. "We had to make sure what is happening now in eastern Ukraine didn't happen there."

 

That's still not answering my questions though.

 

The Russian government denies that regular Russian soldiers are fighting and dying throughout eastern Ukraine. However, the presence of Russian soldiers on Ukrainian territory has become undeniable following the steady stream of coffins returning to Russia under the label “Cargo 200.”

A series of exposé reports from local Russian news outlets, and a number of cases in which Russian soldiers accidentally revealed their presence in Ukraine on social media, confirm that the regular Russian military is active in Ukraine. Both Western and Russian journalists have uncovered the troubling details of active Russian soldiers who have died or suffered serious injuries in Ukraine.

These reports include not only eye-witness accounts and photographs of Russian soldiers in Ukraine, but also interviews with the grief-stricken parents whose sons died fighting among the so-called local separatists in eastern Ukraine.

Russian soldiers enter Ukraine from nearby border camps. As described in numerous interviews with Russian soldiers who have fought in Ukraine, commanders will order soldiers to conceal the identifying features of military vehicles, remove insignia from uniforms and finally travel across the border to join separatist forces in eastern Ukraine.

There are also reports of Russian soldiers quitting the Russian army out of fear of being sent to fight in Ukraine under pressure from commanding officers.

Despite an orchestrated campaign from the Russian government, the coffins arriving from Ukraine cannot be hidden. The following incidents have been confirmed through investigative journalism by independent Russian and Western media outlets:

• In mid-August, the 76th Guards Air Assault Division of Pskov lost a number of its young soldiers in Ukraine.

• Eleven deaths from the 18th Motorized Infantry Brigade, unit 27777, were confirmed just between August 9 and 13, two in Ukraine and nine during supposed “exercises.”

• A Russian tank operator from the 5th Tank Brigade of Ulan-Ude was located in a burn recovery unit in Rostov after suffering grave injuries when firing against Ukrainian soldiers in Debaltseve.

• Nine soldiers who quit the Kantemirovskaya division were mentioned in an exchange of letters between Viktor Miskovets, the head of the Human Resources Department of Russia’s Western Military District, and Valentina Melnikova, who runs the Alliance of Soldiers’ Mothers Committees, a nongovernmental group based in Moscow. These soldiers were not simply volunteers, but active duty Russian soldiers acting under their superiors’ orders.

 

Questions based on a propaganda report fabricated by Russians?

I think I've already answered.

 

Sorry, what report is that? Listed several questions which call in to question some of the 'official' findings.

Your inability to provide satisfactory answers speaks volume. You sir, are a patsy.

 

Tbh I would say it was just a bit of drunken tomfoolery gone wrong. These missiles are all.very interesting and loads of fun until someone takes it too far and some **** gets hurt.

 

You missed a great opportunity - to add 'before you was born.'

**** me -it comes to something when I can take the piss out of myself better than anyone else !

 

Jiffy
with so much missing information - and not being able to trust any politician as far as I could throw them - I am uncertain that anyone is telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

 

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Russians in the Crimean Peninsula - "Conspiracy Theory" said the Russians.

Unfortunately it was proven to be 100% true.

Moral of the story, the Russians (Putin) are never to be trusted.

 

Your questions were based on findings from the Russians' own report into the missile strike... No?

 

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Russian paratroopers captured by Ukrainian forces near a village in the Amvrosiivka district of Donetsk in August. Russia says the troops strayed into Ukraine by accident.

Did ye, aye?

 

Aye, same ones from another thread. Someone seems to think that the idea of Russia having troops in Ukraine is a conspiracy theory

 

No, wrong.

They were in fact copied from a comment on the Daily Mail website

 

Maybe they were Russian and they missed the turn off...

 

And the writer of said comment clearly believes the Russkies evidence is to be taken as gospel.

 

Don't talk to me about Governments killing people when they want ya hypocritical ****.

 

Post your sources.

 

Did you not stray across a border while in an Army?