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Missing Malaysian jet

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Null, Mar 10, 2014.

  1. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    Funny timng.
     
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  2. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    False Flag Syndrome?
     
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  3. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    For Russia under Putin? Nah, they murder when it suits them and deny it like the ****ing scum they are.
     
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  4. The Anilingus Aficionado

    The Anilingus Aficionado Official POTY 2011, 2014, 2015, 2018 & 2023

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    I prefer Scenario myself.
     
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  5. The Anilingus Aficionado

    The Anilingus Aficionado Official POTY 2011, 2014, 2015, 2018 & 2023

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    Dev Litvinenko when the KGB read his disparaging comments!! <yikes>

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  6. Patience

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    So many questions, without answers. Easy to point the finger at Russia and Putin - smacks of desperation.

    Why did the investigation ignore the evidence from the manufacturer of the missile, presented in a court of law? Why did Ukraine order the MH17 to go through a war zone and drop its height? Why did Ukraine confiscate the air traffic control tapes? Why did Ukraine demand fact have to be classified? Is the forensic report on the shrapnel fragments from the entry and exit holes going to be made public? Is the autopsy report on pilot going to be made public? Why did the investigation ignore the evidence from the manufacturer, presented in a court of law? Who gained? Not Russia.

    This 'blame Russia' retort to everything makes me ****ing sick.

    @alwaysright - what's your thoughts, mate?
     
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  7. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    Both sides of the conflict had access to these BUK missiles did they not?
     
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  8. DevAdvocate

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    I'd not take Russia's word on any matter, according to them there are no Russian troops in Ukraine.
     
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  9. DevAdvocate

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    It was fired from territory controlled by "Russian backed rebels" (aka the Russian Army).
     
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  10. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    1 man on the plane managed to get his oxygen mask on. Never knew there was a shrewdie on board :(

    <peacedove>
     
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  11. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    Allegedly
     
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  12. DevAdvocate

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    Which part?
     
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  13. Patience

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    So no answer to the multiple questions, just something about not trusting Russia?
     
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  14. DevAdvocate

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    Not Russia, Putin. He's a bigger liar than Dave King.
     
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  15. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    Who controlled the area in which the missile was fired?

    Why would Russians shoot a plane down? Were the Ukrainians bombing them? Serious question.
     
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  16. DevAdvocate

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    Because they thought they could blame Ukraine.
     
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  17. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    Whoever shot it down thought it was military plane no?
     
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  18. DevAdvocate

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    "Russia has veered wildly in its claims over who and what shot down MH17, initially the Russian Ministry of Defence made the claim that it was shot down by Ukrainian Su-25 ground-attack aircraft.

    The report released today by Russian missile maker Almaz-Antey should be discounted as disinformation and propaganda aimed at drawing attention away from the Dutch report. It is worth remembering that Russia has a long history of disinformation over its involvement in Ukraine, initially the country denied its troops had invaded Crimea – something Russia now acknowledges was the case.”

    "Russia has argued that no longer operates the 9M38 or 9M38M1 missiles. This is not borne out by the evidence, which shows they remained in Russian service and in Russian military stockpiles at the time of the shootdown."


     
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  19. DevAdvocate

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    Possibly.
     
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  20. Patience

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    I still feel strongly that regardless of your Putin insults, Russia is still innocent and until my questions are satisfactorily answered, I will remain firmly entrenched in my view that Ukraine is responsible for the murder of these innocents.
     
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