Missing Malaysian jet

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34511973#"

 

Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 crashed as a result of a Russian-made 9M38 Buk missile, the Dutch Safety Board says.

The missile hit the front left of the plane, as a result of which part of the plane broke off, it said in a final report into the disaster.

The West and Ukraine say Russian-backed rebels brought down the Boeing 777. But Russia claims a missile was fired from Ukrainian-controlled territory.

The report will not apportion blame but says airspace should have been closed.

Relatives of some of the 298 people who died over Ukraine in 2014 have been told victims would have lost consciousness almost immediately.

The plane - flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur - crashed in rebel-held eastern Ukraine on 17 July 2014 at the height of the conflict between government troops and the pro-Russian separatists.

Among the victims were 196 Dutch nationals and 10 Britons

The Dutch Safety Board presented its findings first to the victims' relatives before briefing reporters at the Gilze-Rijen military base in the Netherlands.

The board showed parts of the aircraft that have been brought back from the rebel-held Donetsk region and reconstructed.

The report looks at four key issues:

what caused the plane to disintegrate in mid-air
why it was flying over the conflict region
why some relatives had to wait four days before receiving official confirmation that their loved ones were on board
to what extent passengers and crew were aware of what was happening in the final moments.

Barry Sweeney, father of British crash victim Liam Sweeney, earlier told the BBC that he had been told it appeared a missile had struck the cockpit first - killing all three crew inside and leaving fragments inside their bodies.

He said the cockpit then appeared to have broken off.

But he and other relatives briefed on the report say they were told it was extremely unlikely that anyone on board had any notion of what was happening.

The board does not have the authority to apportion blame, under the rules governing international flight crash investigations.

A separate Dutch-led criminal investigation is expected to publish its findings in several months' time.

Dutch Safety Board president Djibbe Joustra suggested that the aircraft was most likely brought down by a Russian-made Buk surface-to-air missile - which experts say both Russian and Ukrainian armies possess.

The government in Ukraine and several Western officials have said the missile was brought from Russia and launched from the rebel-held part of Ukraine.

Report 'wrong'
Earlier on Tuesday, Russian officials from Almaz-Antey - the state firm which manufactures Buk missiles - once again rejected those accusations.

During a presentation timed to pre-empt the Dutch report, officials said the evidence suggested the plane was shot down by a surface-to-air Buk missile fired by Ukrainian forces.


Using video footage of their own mock-up of shrapnel hitting the fuselage of an aircraft, the officials said trajectory evidence showed the missile had been fired from Ukrainian-controlled territory. They argued the missile used was a decades-old model no longer in use in the Russian arsenal.

Russia says Dutch investigators have not taken account of its findings.

In July, Russia vetoed a draft resolution at the UN Security Council to set up an international tribunal into the MH17 air disaster.

President Vladimir Putin said at the time the establishment of such a tribunal would be "premature" and "counterproductive".

 

Convenient timing....

 

Don't know about anyone else but I can distinctly smell a flag with the overpowering stench of falseness.

 

The missile had nails and screws in the war head. I **** you not. Stinks of the IRA

 

Was there a warning from someone with 'a thick Irish accent'?

 

Yes. But then the dumb paddy realised he couldny leave his briefcase behind and walk off a plane a 30,000 feet.

 

Funny in your fat Hun head?

 

Aye.

 

Apparently they have found the Wings. They are still looking for the Wongs and the Wangs though

 

Jokes about a plane crash from the guy who went squealing to another forum when the jiffmeister changed his username

 

Shut yer hole

 

Have they found any survivors yet?

 

Yes luckily one man was playing snake 2 at the moment of impact and the phone he was playing it on actually protected him from the initial blast but unfortunately rendered it useless (some people refute this), but as luck would have it the individual was a Saudi national and happened to have his passport sellotaped to his face just in case. He landed face down on a land mine and suffered a slight concussion but thankfully made a full recovery

 

Good news in a world full of disaster and misery.

God bless us all.

 

So - you deem it appropriate to make a mockery out of a story involving tragic deaths. You'll forgive me being unable to pity your pathetic attitude to the suffering of the victims and their families - they are more deserving of my sympathy.
I'd love it if you involuntarily shat yourself every time somebody is killed in tragic circumstances. There wouldn't be any real harm done. There would be no 'insensitivity' (other than in your arse ), and the 'humour' of it would appeal to a wider audience, other than morons who think that murder is an opportunity to make a joke - sorry, I meant to say, a **** of themselves..

 

Ooooffftttt somebody woke up a wee bit moody this morning.

 

Yes, Dear.