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  1. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    True. I don't think any side goes for a top 4 spot, more a case of those who fail, settle for it.

    I like the CL as it is now. In the past, with two group stages, that was a hell of a slog for sides competing at the very top. You get to see the best of Europe go head to head. The name is corny, perhaps keeping it as the European Cup would have fit it better but its not worth quibbling over really.

    We have always been Champions when we have won the CL technically, as both times, we have won the title a few weeks before hand. We were also champions in 67.
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    .<laugh>



    Or

    Things you got to 2nd

    League title
    2 European titles
    3 European titles
    4 European titles
    5 European titles
    18 league titles
    The League and Fa Cup double
    Winning 3 trophies in one season twice
    Shirt sponsorship
    First game on Match of the day in colour
    Semi final of the European Cup
    Reach a European final
    Employ Matt Busby

    Etc etc.

    <whistle>
     
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  3. UnitedinRed

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    Money isn't the problem. It's how its used. Other countries like Germany and Spain invest a lot of it in youth football. Germany started this around the millennium as they were kind of old and ****e back then. We pretend to want to progress the game at grass roots level but nothing ever comes of it. We either have the right players and wrong manager or right manager, wrong players.

    If we are looking to develop technically gifted kids, then we need a modern manager to be leading the national team. Otherwise, what's the point?

    Over here the money is spent on players, so much wasted by all clubs. Some clubs invest very little, or only what they are required to in the development side of the game, preferring to waste millions on players who, ironically would sign for European sides at half the cost.

    Or you have agents laughing all the way to the bank thanks to English football.
     
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  4. UnitedinRed

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    <laugh>

    Some great shouts there <laugh> <laugh>
     
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  5. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    "technically"

    Nah, you either are or aren't reigning champions when you enter the competition, you never entered the CL in your treble season as champions.
     
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  6. UnitedinRed

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    We were champions of England when we won it in 99 and 08. <ok>
     
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    Did Utd enter the CL competition as champions in those seasons?
     
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  8. UnitedinRed

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    Nope. Not what I said though, is it? <whistle>
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    So, Utd have won it by default in the Fergie years as opposed to the legit win under Matt Busby's managership.<whistle>
     
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  10. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Was just reading your post on the Klopp sackwatch thread on the utd board, you ask where is the money coming from for Klopp's LFC rebuild.
    You are deffo on the windup or lying to yourself if you reckon we can't afford to spend big, the evidence is all over the internet to show we can.

    His problem won't be money to buy players it will be persuading the big name players to sign for us, Muller says its all about the money and lots of top players would agree, unless FSG are prepared to pay the wages that match the transfer fees the players won't come.
     
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    Yeah, we've won that three times an' all <whistle>
     
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  12. Diego

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    Make your mind up, at first you say the evidence is all over the internet that you can spend big, then say you may not be able to attract big name players because it's all about the money.

    You have paid big transfer fees (for you) when you have made big sales. You need to be able to pay those fees without selling your best players (only way to improve) and pay the wages to match.
     
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  13. Its not rocket science. We spend big on transfer fees but not wages.
     
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  14. Diego

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    So you can't afford the big names then.
     
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  15. Stan

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    We entered the comp as champions in 07-08 as we won the league in 06-07 (we weren't supposed to win it but Rooney and Ronaldo were quite good).
     
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    <laugh>

    You're being pedantic, of course they're able to afford to pay big wages, but not paying them because it doesn't suit their failed strategy is/was their weakness.
     
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  17. Stan

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    OK buy why?

    Why spunk £80million on average players like Lala, Markovic, Balotelli and Lovren to "only" pay them, what, a combined £300k a week on a four year contract (total spend - £140million) when you could spend £50million on Sanchez, who I think is the best player in the PL, and pay him £200k a week on a 4 year contract (total spend £90million)?
     
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  18. Tobes

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    Oh poor old RS they can 'only' afford a mere £150k per week <wah>
     
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    Because they have listened to the wrong people and their transfer policy isn't working
     
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  20. Stan

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    Fair enough. It's been going on for years though. Maybe Klopp will convince them to change that.
     
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  21. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Hopefully(from our point of view)Stan.
     
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