Off Topic Rupert Murdoch implies Obama not 'real black president'

Rupert Murdoch implies Obama not 'real black president'

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Media mogul Rupert Murdoch has sent a tweet suggesting President Barack Obama is not a "real black president".
In tweets praising Republican candidate Ben Carson, Mr Murdoch wrote: "Ben and Candy Carson terrific. What about a real black President who can properly address the racial divide?"
He also recommended a New York magazine article for "minority community disappointment" with the president.
Mr Murdoch, 84, is founder of the global News Corporation empire.
His company owns Fox News Channel and The New York Post and The Wall Street Journal in the US, and Sky News and The Sun and Times newspapers in the UK, among others.
He is ranked as one of the world's most powerful people.
Mr Murdoch has previously tweeted his admiration for Mr Carson, a 63-year-old retired neurosurgeon who is one of 15 hopefuls vying to become the Republican candidate for the US presidency in 2016.
A few days ago, he tweeted: "Everywhere pundits keep underestimating Ben Carson. But public understand humility as admirable, listen to the multi-faceted strong message."
Previously, he has said of him: "Maybe the one to beat. Irreproachable on background, achievements, character, vision."
He took to Twitter again on Wednesday.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34472397

 

Nothing is going to lose black votes quicker than a rich old white guy telling the public who is a real black man or not.


Although to be honest, it irks me that someone half white and half black is referred to as black, like Obama. That itself seems racist... He's mixed... And nothing wrong with that- 90+% of people in the world are mixed race if you go back 17 generations. Two thirds of "black" Americans have 10% or more "white DNA".

Culturally Obama black though.

Regardless, it's not up to old rich white men to decide who is a real black man and who isn't. Voting statistics would show Carson doesn't share the same political ideals as most US blacks however.

 

He's half asian, indonesian in fact, besides he was never first black president, he is mixed race.

The leader of the cult Obama's mammy was in, also the woman who released his full birthcert and then conveniently died soon after.. was also in this cult, the Florida chapter.

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This guy is supposed to be his Dad but I bet on Mohammed Subud above

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Obama looks about as Kenyan as knockoff iPhones



The people that look like Obama in the world are Asian.. cos he's asian

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Fun. Hadn't heard that one. He does look a little like that guy.

Personally, I think the whole born overseas thing is a bit ridiculous anyway and should be overturned. We have an amendment stating to discriminate against national origin is illegal... And then have a requirement that president must have a specific national origin?

Should be best man for job- or at least who the voters think is best man. Couldn't care less if Obama were born in Kenya (he wasn't and would be a citizen anyway because his mum was).

 

It was to stop the British and then those peskie commies installing a puppet president lol...

Best thing Obama has done is be the first non white president to be as **** as any white president. Means the next one doesn't have to live up to some mythology bollox about being the next MLK...

This obsession with the right to keep harping on about his origins is an own goal...they should be going with "He's only black not the messiah...just an ordinary run of the mill politician who has been fairly ineffective"

Unfortunately they can't because ineffective is still better than Looney as a cockatoo on speed which describes most of their wannabe candidates...

 

Now ye aren't still thinking Presidents are elected by winning votes are ye

Obama is a Kissinger circle protege.

 

I'd take 12 Obama's over any of the current GOP candidates.
Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are crazy, Carson is a religious nutjob. Bobby Gindel is inconsequential. Huckabee is a ****ing fat ****!
Carly Fiorini got 5 minutes of fame because Trump called her ugly but until then no one knew who the **** she was.

Clinton is a crook, but I would still take her over any of the GOP. She is out for her own interests (which of them isn't?) but at least she isn't crazy.
Bernie Sanders would be my choice though.

I just love the way that the Conservatives are trying to pin anything on Clinton that they can, Including Benghazi and the email ****.
Nothing happened in either incident, no one can sit down and tell you exactly what Clinton was supposed to have done wrong in either instance, they just love bouncing around talking points, and hope the **** sticks....its hilarious.

 

No longer a concern really. Although we could still back Mayor Boris as he was born in the US. (just need to exile him to the US for 15 years first to gain eligibility).

I don't agree with a lot of what he's done but I think he's done better than Most white presidents. (except Clinton who was the best in my lifetime)

I would commend him for not getting us in any wars. There have been plenty of opportunity to get caught up in war and he's resisted the urge. Sure a few military operations here and there but no outright full blown military confrontations... This is progress.

Unfortunately, his stand-down approach has let Putin become a bully in Eastern Europe and the middle east. His warplanes regularly venture into NATO member airspace. He constantly is testing our boundaries and response time. He's got used to doing exactly what he wants. There is danger that now he is used to being top-dog over NATO that if a less pliable president takes office things could get ugly.

My other criticism is the affordable-care act. It has helped a lot of people out but I think it could have been better.

Instead of helping poor people get medical insurance a plan should have been made to fight the rising costs that are in place BECAUSE of medical insurance.

We pay over double the rates of any industrialized nation for healthcare. Insurance is the reason for this.

Doctors and pharmacy companies have no inflationary price restraint because "insurance will pay". Patients never know how much they're going to pay until they get the bill from an insurance company.

I pay $1500 a month in insurance fees for my family (that is subsidized by my employer or would be more). I go to doctor for annual physical. Doctor sends Bill to insurance company for maybe $1000. Insurance company negotiates price down to $500 and tells me my share is $300. So after paying $1500 a month I still need to pay $300 for my annual well-visit. But I haven't a clue how much I Will pay before I get the bill from the insurance company 2 months later.

Because of this obfuscation of what you pay. Consumers have no clue how much they're going to pay and this allows doctors to keep jacking up prices... So insurance jacks up their prices to cover it. Not to mention insurance needs to hire people to negotiate doctor prices down. Doctors need staff to negotiate it up.

The consumer is forced to buy into this ridiculous feedback loop because otherwise they pay the standard non-negotiated rate (which doctors inflate because they know insurance companies will negotiate down). Have a heart attack and not have an insurance company to negotiate prices down and you will be given a $300,000 bill. That's more debt than many people would ever escape in their lifetime. With insurance it would still be 10s of thousands for most people on most plans.

It's a silly system that does nothing but raise prices unendingly. Instead of giving poor people insurance they shoul get rid of all medical insurance and force doctors to quote prices up front so that consumers can pick on price causing a downward price pressure rather than the current upward price pressure. (and provide assistance for the poor to meet this new lower price).


An NHS would be better but an unrealistic request for the US. Will never happen.

 

Yeah it was a nice idea very badly implemented..as usual the political shenanigans got in the way.

As for the wars...you've opened the BBF box lol...for a declared liberal he has basically developed an incredibly scary bsstard son of special forces and CIA (JSOC) Basically a gang that no longer has to declare war to illegally go into countries the US hasn't declared war with an kill anyone they like without congressional oversight. including US civilians. Unfortunately we seem to have followed suit.

Don't get me wrong. We have all been doing similar things for years but at least made the pretence that Executive, Intelligence and Operations were separate things .

Out of interest and not to declare your voting intentions. Who do you think is the best candidate on each side for the job?

 

I haven't really been following it too closely but:

Republicans:

Domestically Lindsey Graham isn't too bad. He's a centrist who would make a good compromise between the two parties. Foreign policy he's too hawkish for my liking though. He'd probably be a democrat in most states but democrats don't win in the deep south so he runs as a republican and is close enough that they tolerate him.

He's not going to win though. Not a tea-bagger and is rumoured to be gay. So republicans won't nominate him.


Of the others. John Kasich looks the best of a bad group. He is another one who looks more likely to compromise with the left. Isn't a religious nutjob and fairly centrist. Quite like many of his policies. Very small chance of winning.

I'm expecting one of the awful candidates to win republican nomination.



On the democrat side haven't heard as much about the candidates. Bernie Sanders is way too far left for me and is unelectable as president anyway. If he wins the nomination the republicans win the election. US would never elect a far lefty. Even Trump would beat Sanders.


I don't like H. Clinton either. She just seems to oily and corrupt. Too much a power loving person. I don't think she would be any better than the republicans for keeping us out of wars either.

She's better than any of the republicans likely to win but I'd pick Kasich or Graham over her. Any of the other republicans and I would want Hillary to beat them.

The other democrats I don't know enough about.



I'm expecting a poor choice for president from both parties. Will probably vote 3rd party again as a protest vote even though I know they won't win. Modern Whig party who I like best doesn't have a candidate. Not sure if Greens have any yet... I may vote green.

 

You think Trump would beat Sanders?
Thats bad for the US, because they are the two most likely to win their respective tickets.
Unless Hillary pulls her finger out.
Trump has got the GOP ticket tied up....unless they start discussing policy, in which case Trumps stupidity may hurt him, but seriously the Republican base is so pathetic, the dumber Trump looks, the more likely they will vote for him.

 

Sanders is probably the only person the democrats could elect that Trump would beat. Americans don't trust anyone who label themselves as "socialists". Centrists won't back Sanders and it's the centrists that elect democrats. True leftists have much lower voter turn out than those on the right. Typically the right votes more. The US is more left than it appears because lefties rarely vote.

 

Rupert Murdoch is a suppurating pustule* on the face of humanity, so who gives a toss what he thinks?

* Probably a tautology.

 

To be a UK citizen one of your parent or grand parent has to be born in United Kingdom. Obama's mother was a citizen
of United States of America,

 

US has similar rules. I don't think Grandparents count for US citizenship but Obama would be eligible for US citizenship as long as he hadn't officially taken Kenyan citizenship because of his mum. (US doesn't officially recognise dual citizens).

Obama's first competitor for president, John McCain, wasn't born in the US he was born in Panama but his parents were born in US so he was citizen at birth and this eligible to run for potus.

 

While I agree with you on the cosmetic aspect of those personalities, the fact remains that nothing changes no matter who is in the whitehoue, republican or democrat.

Clinton was a democrat. Bush a republican and then Obama a democrat. What changed during their reigns? Things got worse and worse.
Obama has put the US in more debt than all previous pesidents combined.
The surveillance state has grown to its highest level of power during Obama's reign.

Obama has bombed 7 countries in 6 years

Obama quoted as saying "I'm good at killing people" referring to the drone strikes, you know, that whole killing people without evidence, charge trial or conviction" thing.

Obama closed Guantanamo they say.. no he didn't and the guts of a decade of torture still went on on his watch.
Obama ended wars they say, yet US bombs keep falling on Iraq and Afghanistan. They just intentionally flattened a hospital/
Obama has placed wallstreet in the whitehouse as well as Monsanto people.

Obama is a peddler of "hope", you see you never have to deliver with hope as it's always something yet to be gained.

The same economical geopolitical and domestic issues all have grown worse under three consecutive presidents which denotes a clear stategy independent of who is President. Food for thought.

 

If the old **** said the same thing on this side of the pond he'd get done for racism, whether Obama is "black" by birth or definition or not what the **** has race got to do with a person's ability?

 

He's being accused of racism here too.

 

I think you are right that nothing will change if Clinton gets in, she is just as bad as Obama, if not worse.
However, I think things will change if Trump gets in.
He has no investors to answer to, and is an egotistical id child.
He would be calamitous on foreign policy, he wants to deport a 5th of the country, claiming they are anchor babies, revoking US citizenship to anyone with Mexican parents.
The idea of that prick with his finger on the button should be giving all US citizens nightmares.

 

Oh, thought he'd got away with it tbh, I hope charges are brought against the ****.