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Welcome To Liverpool FC, Jurgen Klopp!

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  1. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    I agree but hope I'm wrong, he just doesn't seem very good.
     
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  2. Jürgenmeiʃter

    Jürgenmeiʃter Top top top top top flirt

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    No need, once Flannos back he is going to be the defence
     
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  3. Germany and Dortmund defender Mats Hummels, 26, said his former manager would be a "fantastic addition" to Liverpool.

    The Dortmund captain, speaking before Germany's Euro 2016 qualifier against Republic of Ireland on Thursday, described Klopp as a "fantastic coach" and added "I can't wait until January so I can join up with him at Liverpool".

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34460797


    PS...I may have added a bit to this
     
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  4. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Knobhead <laugh>
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Looks like Gary Mac and Sean O'Driscoll have already been told they're not part of Klopps backroom staff.



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    I feel for Gary Mac, it was great to see him return to the club but now it looks as though his time has been cut short.




    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...s/liverpool-fc-news-transfer-rumours-10215158
     
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  6. luvgonzo

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    I read that bit it looks a little different?
     
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  7. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Mac will be offered a role with the academy as per the Echo.
     
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    Announcement due today
     
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  9. what about?
     
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    a mysterious delivery of würst and an Audi RS6 to Melwood

    that and a whole library's worth of deutsche granny porn
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    When was that said Jimmy?

    Only going by what I've just read in the Echo, him and O'Driscoll are out.
     
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  12. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    Anyone else see the centre back pairing being Sakho and Can. I know that goes against what we all want and I for one have complained about Can being used as a CB, but Klopp likes his CB's to be able to play football and not just be useless lumps that chuck themselves at the ball and boot it down the other end (Lovren and Skrts).

    Can wouldn't be the first DM to be converted to CB, Klopp himself has already done it with Hummels who was a DM at youth level and when he broke into the Dortmund team. There obvious concerns over Can's speed for playing as a DM, so would he be better suited to being a CB (with the right training of course).
     
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  13. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    What Jurgen Klopp can do with the players he inherits at Liverpool
    Can Liverpool's new manager replicate his success with Borussia Dortmund with a few tactical tweaks? Or is this season a write-off?
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    "Bayern go about football in the same way that the Chinese go about industry," said Jurgen Klopp, after his Borussia Dortmund side lost to Bayern Munich in the German Cup in 2012/13. "They look at what the others are doing and then they copy it with other people and more money. And then they overtake you."
    His high-pressure gegenpress style of play which propelled Dortmund from relegation candidates to serial title winners was effectively plagiarised by Bayern Munich during their treble win 12/13, and this irked Klopp. "I always said in that moment where I believe I am not the perfect coach anymore for this extraordinary club I will say so," he said in the announcement of his plan to resign at the end of the 2014/15 season.
    At Liverpool, Klopp has the opportunity to build a team and another legacy - and this time inherits a group of players in far less perilous a situation than the Borussia Dortmund team he led to successive Bundesliga titles.
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    How Klopp turned Dortmund around
    The Dortmund side Klopp took charge of in 2008 had spent the previous season flirting with relegation and dismissing a series of managers. Klopp came in, looked around and wasted no time removing veteran players and replacing them with young stars capable of growing into a real force.
    Klopp's enthusiasm had an immediate effect and he was so popular that according to FourFourTwo, one of those older players he moved on said "One reason I'm sorry to leave the club is that I would have loved to work with this coach."
    The gegenpress, a German-Anglo word which means literally "counter-press" is an all-action, high tempo, exhausting take on Barcelona's high pressure game where the ball is won as high up the pitch as possible immediately after losing possession.
    Klopp once told FourFourTwo: “Gegenpressing is the best playmaker there is. The best moment to win the ball is immediately after your team just lost it. The opponent is still looking for orientation where to pass the ball.”
    The idea makes sense - catch your opponent in transition and their defensive shape will not be as it should. Teams spend hours and hours and hours on training grounds drilling defensive shapes - even Newcastle can defend when they've been afforded time to set up properly - but if they can be caught out of sorts, like Sergio Aguero discovered during their 6-1 demolition at Manchester City last Saturday, space opens up everywhere.
    Brendan Rodgers phased out this high press when he lost Luis Suarez, who is probably the best striker in the world for relentlessly closing down opponents, and abandoned it altogether when Raheem Sterling left for Manchester City, where his direct style of play suits the "defend from the front" mentality Manuel Pellegrini employs.
    The system only works if every single player presses at the same time, and creates a kind of swarm effect which overpowers defenders and midfielders and forces them to make errors.
    A good example is in Dortmund's 4-2 win over Bayern Munich in the 2013 DFL-Supercup.
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    Klopp liked to play his attacking midfielders close together, particularly Goetze and Reus, so that when one closed down and won the ball, the other was able to take advantage of the loose ball, link up play, and counter-attack. In the example above the Bayern midfielder is closed down by two players, with his passing lanes all blocked off by others.
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    The attacking players win the ball and burst into life. Reus crosses in from the right and Lewandowski is in space and unfortunate not to get the ball past Manuel Neuer.
    The Barcelona high press used by Pep Guardiola was designed to retain possession, so when the ball was stolen back high up the pitch, it would be recycled and passed around the entire team for 25 hours.
    Klopp's version is basically all-out attack - the ball always goes forwards and is not passed from side to side. This means that Dortmund could attack in that crucial transitive phase between attack and defence that creates opportunities, and is why Dortmund could go two or three goals up in a short period of time, putting the game to bed. Just like that Liverpool 5 Arsenal 1, although admittedly two of those goals came from shocking defending at set pieces.
    When defending from something like a goal kick, players are either tight to the opposite midfielder or defender who is most likely to receive the ball, and zonally mark the passing lane (the area which a player can pass into). This forces the player on the ball to make a pass they really don't want to, which often ends in a change of possession.
    So how can he do that at Liverpool? Will he try and do the same things? Would they work in the Premier League?
    Liverpool's pressing precedents
    In the 2013/14 season, Liverpool absolutely demolished Arsenal in a scintilating first half. They pressed high up the pitch, caught the visiting side off guard everytime they got the ball and raced to a 4-0 scoreline within 20 minutes.
    It was a tactic employed throughout Liverpool's journey to second place, as Brendan Rodgers' team consistently dominated and exploited mistakes in their opponent's half. It was exciting, direct and exactly what Borussia Dortmund used to do.
    For Liverpool's third in that rout, they forced Nacho Monreal down a path he didn't want to explore and won the ball.
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    Immediately after that, every single attacking player who was instructed to do so sprinted up the pitch to take advantage of Arsenal being out of defensive shape.
    Henderson drives forward, plays in Suarez on the right, who finds Sterling. Arsenal's defenders are all over the place and Liverpool have taken full advantage.
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ith-the-players-he-inherits-at-Liverpool.html
     
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  14. Red Hadron Collider

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    Heard he prefers English gilfs <laugh>
     
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  15. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    I'd have tried to keep Gary Mac on in some capacity, working with the Youth would be a good call. A very good technical player who could pass it on when the players are at the right age to learn.

    SO'D, well he was never right for the club. Strikes me he was a cheap option just in case Rodgers was sacked and a manager wanted to bring someone in and that now appears to be the case. Its like Woy but at Assistant level.
     
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    I agree, if he does get the boot I wish him well for the future and the same for O'Driscoll.
     
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  17. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    In the echo this morning - also, Davies and Glen Driscoll have gone as wel.
     
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