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Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by canary-dave, Mar 19, 2015.

  1. JKCanary

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    Easy this, eh?
     
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  2. General Melchett

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    Course India doesn't need further aid! They have a space program for pities sake! The only aid they need is several boat loads of rubbers! We cannot cure the worlds ills, we can't even buy all our needy playstation 4's and satellite TV anymore!

    Bah!
     
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  3. KIO

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    JK I work hard for a living but still have to cut my cloth, I couldn't possibly afford to vote for a Labour government. Both my wife and I work full time and receive only child benefit for our youngest child, after paying out for the mortgage, car, bills etc. we have little left. We rarely go out because our 'disposable income' won't allow it but we are happy because we have total self respect. I don't want MORE MONEY I just want to be allowed to keep what little I have.
     
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  4. JKCanary

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    The Commons disagrees with you.
     
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  5. JKCanary

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    I didn't say you did.

    I merely edited your post to highlight the generic, arguably propaganda-influenced, somewhat offensive rhetoric you put across initially.
     
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  6. KIO

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    Charity begins at home, perhaps if we kept the money there wouldn't be the need for austerity that so many of you lot are against !
     
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  7. JKCanary

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    I thought you were against trotting out propaganda? You keep spouting these soundbites.
     
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  8. KIO

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    Yes you did and there's only one offensive poster on here and it isn't me (IMO)
     
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  9. JKCanary

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    Well, I didn't intend to. Apologies if so.

    Regardless, my point here still stands:
    "I ... edited your post to highlight the generic, arguably propaganda-influenced, somewhat offensive rhetoric you put across initially."
     
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  10. General Melchett

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    What do they know! it's all likely spent on bribes to do business with the MP's friends and very unlikely to go anywhere near those in need anyway!

    Bah!
     
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  11. General Melchett

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    Yeah but Munky started it! I'm off to tell teacher!

    Bah!
     
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  12. JKCanary

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    On this subject? I'm willing to bet that that particular Commons committee knows more than you.
     
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  13. KIO

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    Will you pack it in General you're talking too much sense on here today ;)
     
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  14. JKCanary

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    Cor, yeah! Your unfounded conjecture accurately reflects accounts like this one of how the b*stards at 'the Poorest Areas Civil Society programme' (PACS) steal our money! Bloody thieves!

    Where does the money go?
    We were ushered into a dim house off the tangle of streets that make up the small town of Biharsharif. Thirty women, many with babies and infants in tow, had gathered to meet us.

    In one corner was a huge pile of dried cowpats - a store of fuel for cooking and to warm houses in the cold winter months.

    The women are part of a community organisation - set up by a local NGO called the Poorest Areas Civil Society programme (PACS) - which receives funding from the British government.

    The idea, says Arti Verma who runs the project, is to make sure these women - and millions like them across the country - access the money and services that are available to them from the Indian government.

    "Basically we work with the communities from the marginalised background and we make them aware of their rights and entitlements related to health, education, livelihood," she explained.

    A key objective is to make sure they deliver their babies in hospital, giving both mother and baby a much better chance of survival. Until recently few did, anxious that because of caste or religion they might be discriminated against in hospital.
     
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  15. General Melchett

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    That maybe so, but their decision is more likely to be made from a position of vested interest, to any great philanthropic will.

    Bah!
     
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  16. JKCanary

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    So I can only assume you'll be joining the campaign (or are even already part of it) to alter how our political system facilitates democracy, and ergo reduce the impact of such vested interests, right?
     
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  17. General Melchett

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    Propaganda to fool the unwary! Why help a country that is not helping itself? It's like giving the gambling addict a few quid and thinking he'll spend it on food and shelter. Some will help the needy but I bet allot gets admined and absorbed into the system and the not so needy. Tell India that when it stops spending on space programs and invests in its own people then we might follow suit. There are some really poor people in Africa who can't afford spaceships why not help them instead?

    Bah!
     
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  18. Tony_Munky_Canary

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    So are you saying that you are now better off under five years of a Tory led governmen than you were under 13 years of a Labour one? Doesn't sound like it much if you're cutting your cloth so much and hardly going out these days - so was it even worse under in the years, so much worse that you couldn't possibly vote Labour for fear of going back to living under those conditions?

    Or is it just what they want you to believe?

    How exactly did the last five years help you out? I'm interested to know because I personally haven't had a pay rise in over four years, and have seen a massive decline in public services. (cue: comment about how bad it was in the 70's and the three day week)
     
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  19. JKCanary

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    But it is helping itself. Did you even read my post?

    The whole point of the aid-funded PACS is to help the most vulnerable people access the funds available to them provided by the Indian government. Without PACS they'd arguably have no way of being supported by the Indian government.

    People are very quick to recommend that India abandons the space program and focus on their own domestic welfare, but then insist we keep fully funding things like Trident and cut International Aid, not to mention our own domestic welfare.
     
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  20. General Melchett

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    No, but I'm very busy painting my nails and stuff! <whistle>

    It does sound like a good thing to be involved in, but this thread and voting once every 5 years is about as political as I get. #copingout

    I be just another of them no action keyboard warriors

    Are you involved?

    Bah!
     
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