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Off Topic Council plans to fill in remains of historic Beverley Gate in Hull opposed

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Aug 11, 2015.

  1. GLP

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    Shame, like Dutch says it should still be viewed as a success, despite the fact that the centre piece won't be in place and we're missing out on events like this.

    It's obviously all part of the process, eh Dutch? <doh><doh>
     
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    Aye, as I said I the edit earlier, they even seem to miss out too much mentioned of the centre piece amidst all the hoohah of the submission summaries and celebrations. Last year and earlier, it was being talked of in terms of being a legacy element.

    'Element' being a key word. There's plenty else to be looking forward to in the years ahead. Positive image, positive attitude.

    Be Hull, be proud.

    PS. I'm not sure the venue in question is the same one, as the one mentioned for the Baftas, as it also referred to it having an Olympic sized pool, but on the back of, rather than as a specific part of the City of Culture. Still, it's good that these things are being dreamed about. Reach for the stars and all that.
     
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    Why are they pulling down the Victorian Walls at Holy Trinity Church? Aren't these walls grade 1 listed like the Church?
     
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    Can't recall off the top of my head. They'll have to have a justified case in any event. Doing any work on Churches needs special permissions from the Church hierarchy anyway, which is generally more involved than any listed building or planning requirements.

    I think the City of Culture bods are keen for people to get involved in various aspects of the scheme, why not contact them and get active, or at least ore informed than bits in HDM or here?
     
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    The Church is definitely grade 1, I would expect that would include the church grounds - seems wrong to pull walls down IMHO.

    I don't have the time to get involved, it's a cliché but I already give up 2 evenings a week and a Saturday morning. with 2 young children - it's impossible. Nothing to stop you though.
     
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    You could have simply sent them the queries you posted on here and got answers back. If anything, it would have been quicker.

    Me? I'm as involved as I feel the need to be right now.
     
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    Jolly good for you.
     
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    It is really. I'm looking forward to seeing how it all pans out.

    It's a shame you're taken up with other things, and you don't have time to offer your views on the City of Culture. I'm sure your informed, positive opinion would be an asset.
     
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    You're like a last pick at football. But very cavalier of you, I'm glad they see offering you some part to play as an equal opportunities gesture.
     
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    Have you got to the bit about wing-backs yet? :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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    The age group I have aren't overly bothered about any position on a football pitch. That's a few years down the line. But I'll let them know all they need to know about wing backs!
     
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    Often yes but where the supplier can claim that timescales have slipped because requirements have changed penalties are not applied.
     
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    It can work in another manner, too. Time limits can be connived and a very comfortable, much exaggerated length so that 'great' super-efficient schedule delivery can be claimed to win the public's admiration - some motorway/road redevelopments are good examples. Does the public purse really get the value for money they claim in their roadside signs?
     
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    They don't on the M1! How many years has a 20 mile section from the M18 to J28 been a 50MPH limit? You seldom see people working on it!
     
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    I've done that stretch a few times his year and you're right there's never anybody there! Do you know what the purple trunking is that runs along the top of the central reservation? I'm supposing it's for cables and stuff but I don't really know.
     
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    I think cabling.

    This new central reservation and drainage really hasn't improved the situation either because rainwater sits on the surface terribly, probably worse than before the works started.
     
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    You've got to love this. <laugh>

    http://www.cbrd.co.uk/articles/smart-motorways/


    In the last decade there have been huge changes on some of England's busiest motorways. Where once you could rely on three lanes and a hard shoulder, now there are countless new electronic signs, road markings and rules.

    These schemes have gone by various names in the past but now the Highways Agency refers to them all as "Smart Motorways"...

    Why do they take so long to install?
    Compared to many road maintenance or upgrade schemes, Smart Motorway schemes can be relatively quick: ...

    The minimum requirement is a communications upgrade: this involves running new communication cables down the verges of the motorway (and sometimes down the central reservation too) which supply power to the new electronic equipment and connect it all to the control centre. This job is usually clearly visible while it's happening because all the new cabling is installed in bright purple plastic piping which is often strung along the sides of the carriageway while it's being fitted. This work, in itself, is not too disruptive.
     
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    Well, I did ask! This implies that the purple trunking is a permanent fixture, or have I missed something?
     
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    I suspect it gets buried at the end of the scheme. Although what the 'end' would be I'm not sure, as the article suggests they'll continue to make us smart further north on the M1.
     
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    The M1 roadworks are a joke, the long stretches with 50mph average speed cameras were in place when I stopped going to London every week (that was over three years ago) and there's almost never anyone working on them. I noticed people have started defacing the 'Take Care - My Daddy Works Here' signs, with stuff like 'Does He ****' and 'Is He Invisible?'

    They're also unnecessarily spending millions on all the new gantry's and signage, they're only a hundred yards apart in some places and they're are putting camera's on half of them, which wouldn't be so much of an issue if we upped the speed limit to a more realistic 80mph (they're even talking about bringing in a 60mph limit on the M1 from Derby to Sheffield, to 'improve air quality').
     
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