Well yes. Because that's not true. He is a stubborn arrogant man who seemingly would rather play 'his way' and fail than adapt and be successful. That doesn't make him a 'bad manager' as such because I believe the knowledge and ability is there (he is clearly one of the smartest men in the game). It's the Wenger paradox.
But if the ability is there (so you say, and I disagree) but he never wins the big trophies or big matches because he never uses said ability... how can you actually say he is a good manager? Isn't part of being a 'good' manager to actually use the skills you have? Having these hidden and latent skills (debatable) is worthless if they're never used.
Yes it does. I completely disagree with your point. That first bit is EXACTLY what makes him a bad manager.
These traits are negative and stop an individual from growing and improving in whatever they are trying to do. But the main negative for Wenger is his stubbornness, and this is what's stopped him from making sustained improvements over the course of his career. He has this idealistic view that he wants to follow and when it starts failing, he change things up to maintain our position. But he will always revert to type because it's the type of football he craves to play. He's quite a romantic is Wenger.
I never said he was a 'good manager' either. Although I believe he has the potential to be. Well in fact we have seen it. The 2003-2004 side was IMO the best team in Premierleague history. (Our team in 1998 was pretty special too.) If you think a 'bad manager' could have assembled that team - I would say you are seriously deluded. Bur regardless. Have you ever listened to Wenger talk about football? The guy is a living encyclopaedia!.. When I think of a bad manager I think of someone like Pulis. His teams play the same way because that's all he knows. With Wenger that isn't the case. It's more idealism than anything. I don't believe for one minute he is unaware of our tactical weaknesses. He is a romantic basically - He believes rather than setting his team up to counter his opponent if we simply 'play better' than them - we can win. I would say Guardiola at Barca had a similar philosophy. The difference is that he had a better side (and Lionel Messi)
Klopp is the next logical choice for Arsenal. He is similar to Wenger in a lot of ways but lacks a lot of the stubbornness that Wenger has. Klopp likes to blood youngsters, doesnt spend a fortune on overpriced stars but makes astute buys, plays decent football, and more importantly (last season excluded) he wins titles.
Logical choice most would say.....a realistic proposition if Wenger retires, which doesn't look like happening. So highly unlikely this season.
Yeah, I would Love Klopp. Be interesting to see what he could do with our budget. Only problem is that I think he will want to return to football next Summer and Wenger still has a year left at that point.
And thats ****** crazy,. If you have a manager who just says "play better than them and you will win" then he is an idiot. The way you play better than them is to stop them playing their game and force them to adapt to how you are playing, then in essence, they defeat themselves. How many times in football do we see the team with the most possession and most chances lose the game? All the time. At the end of the day its about putting the ball in the back of the net more times than the other team, who gives a **** who had more possession. The team than won played the better football by definition because they won and the aim in a football match is to win.
There are two ways of assessing Wenger 1) Compare Arsenal in the 20 years before Wenger to the Arsenal under Wenger. They have been in the top four every year for ages and won a few trophies. No-one achieved that before him. 2) Look to see how Arsenal do compared to clubs with similar resources. Essentially he finishes in the PL about in line with his resources. Early on Arsenal were in the top two or three in resources and finished in line. Now they are fourth and finish in line. In summary - has made Arsenal consistently deliver about what you'd expect - very few managers have done better than this.
Back end of last season you looked a class outfit but everyone could see the areas where you needed to strengthen in order to have a squad that was in with a realistic chance of a serious title challenge. A keeper - who you'd needed for years A top draw CB A physical DM and a World class striker He only brought in 1 of those players, and didn't spend the money that was confirmed as being available to him. He's a belligerent and obstinate old man these days, he wouldn't be told, and that's always been his problem.
First time on here since yesterday afternoon and can't bring myself to reading everything! I think I'm becoming immune to us losing., just feel numb to it all recently. I didn't even watch the game as I couldn't get easy access to it. A couple of years ago that wouldn't have happened and I'd have tried any means to watch it if I couldn't physically make the match.
This. How long have Arsenal been without a decent striker? Since RvP left.....they never replaced him. There was the half arsed 40,000,000.01p attempt at Suarez but since then he hasn't made any sort of real attempt to buy a decent striker. And you look at the amount of top strikers that have moved around Europe in the last 4 years, Cavani, Costa, Lewandowski to name but a few. What is he playing at? Does he think a team spearheaded by Giroud is going to win the CL, or heck even the PL?
Not that it would make any difference, they will still find a way of ending up below Arsenal, even if we got Ron as our manager.
I don't think so - since Wenger took over at Arsenal - Spurs have finished above every other club at least once but have always finished below Arsenal.
Could be more down to you being poor than Wenger being the problem. Arsenal have finished 4th on a number of occasions, so it's not like we've finished 1st or 2nd. You've had ample opportunities but you always find ways of screwing things up.
