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Gerry Adams arrested

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  1. stopmeandslapme

    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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    Stoopid paddies.
     
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  2. Ciaran

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    League tables.
     
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    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    I also read Gerry was cleared of having ever been in the IRA.
     
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  4. Ciaran

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    Where'd Dev go?
     
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  5. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    There's he is.

    You have evidence Gerry was in the IRA?
     
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    Here say my good man, pure hear say.
     
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    <rofl>
     
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  8. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    The Belfast Telegraph has turned into a tabloid since Gailey Walker got the editor job. Used to be a decent read albeit Unionist leaning.

    Suppose all papers are going down the ****ter.
     
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  9. Ciaran

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    That a No then?
     
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    Yep, the standards are appalling. The Record is a comic and don't get me started on the Sun.
     
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    How is it possible to prove anyone was ever a member of the IRA, unless they admit it publicly and on the record?

    It's impossible so it's easy for people to claim they were never a member in the first place. I can't prove Gerry was in the Ra, knowing something and being able to prove it are 2 separate things though.
     
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  12. Ciaran

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    You 'know' he was in the IRA?
     
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    <laugh>

    Here, this is an interesting article:

    Was Gerry Adams in the IRA? Don't ask Wikipedia

    The wisdom of reliance on Wikipedia as an information source has been further questioned. The latest round of bitter, heavily-politicised infighting among the wiki-fanciers centres around the involvement or non-involvement of Northern Irish politico Gerry Adams in armed violence during the recent/present Ulster troubles.

    Adams himself has long maintained in public that he was never a member of the Provisional IRA (PIRA), the faction which splintered from the effectively-dormant Official IRA early in the conflict and became the main Republican armed group through decades of violence in Ulster, the UK mainland, and other places. This is taken by many to be a convenient fiction, allowing various governments such as the British, Irish, and US to negotiate openly with PIRA. It isn't uncommon for commentators to refer to Adams as an IRA member in almost as many words.

    The BBC, for instance, refer to him as "a member of the IRA delegation" which negotiated secretly with the British in London in 1972. Similarly, the Irish Echo, "the USA's most widely read Irish American Newspaper", expressed itself rather surprised when Adams denied that he had ever been an IRA member in 2002.

    Adams' position is that he has always been a Sinn Fein political activist and never an armed PIRA volunteer. Some would say that it hardly matters; many of those who say Adams was an IRA man also say that he has clearly understood since at least 1972 that PIRA would never achieve its stated goals by violence and that he has always been committed to a political solution. Others don't see a whole lot of difference between being a senior Sinn Fein man and a senior PIRA man.

    But it matters in Wikipedia. Two battling wiki-lovers, "One Night in Hackney" and "Betacommand" have clashed in recent days over the Wikipedia biography of Adams, with the section on the politician's possible PIRA career repeatedly pulled by Betacommand on grounds that it lacks "multiple reliable sources", and reinstated by Douglas Adams fan One Night in Hackney, who disagrees.

    Another wiki hobbyist, "Stubacca", who claims to hail from Belfast, seemed to feel that the sections should remain. But the Betacommand - who describes himself as a student, Harry Potter fan, and "member of the Borg collective" - being a wikipedia admin, has carried the day thus far and the section on Adams' possible paramilitary involvement remains absent at the time of writing.

    That said, Betacommand has allowed a section at the top to say:

    "Senior political, security and media figures, including the Minister for Justice in the Republic of Ireland assert that, from the 1970s until mid-2005, Adams is alleged to have been a member of the IRA's governing army council. He has also been accused of being the IRA commander in Belfast during the 1970s," without multiple sources.


    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/04/wiki_gerry_adams_doodah/
     
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  14. Ciaran

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    Alleged.
     
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    I didn't come up the Clyde on a water bscuit, and neither did you.

    I personally don't care if he was in the IRA or not, that was then and this is now and he seems to be genuinely interested in peace...unlike some others. Looking at his background, it would have been a miracle if he hadn't joined but he's always been a leader and a planner, not a common footsoldier. He was akin to a General in the Armed forces, or a Captain in the Mafia if you like.

    That he was in the IRA there is no doubt, the only thing open to debate is how high up the Chain of command he was, but again, that's in the past and all the better for being left there.
     
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    Still no proof?
     
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  18. DevAdvocate

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    There was no proof Al Capone ran Chicago.
     
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  19. Ciaran

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    We're not talking about a gangster from the '30s.

    Maybe they'll get Gerry on Tax Evasion eh.
     
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  20. stopmeandslapme

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    Hmmm, can you solve this simple maths problem:

    If Brendan gives half of his potatoes to Declan and a third of what's left to Mike, how quickly would he starve to death?
     
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