I've got a Juke and have complained about the fuel efficiency figures that were stated when I bought it, because their mileage guide is absolutely impossible . . . . and a pack of lies I've had it in for checking, at Evans Halshaw, and they say that it's okay . . . . lying bastards It is now almost 4 and a half years old and it's been the same since it was new . . . . I can get nowhere near what they state, no matter how I test it I have been driving for decades, and with every single car that I've had I've always been able to get noticeably more miles per gallon than the guide stated, so I'm sure that it's not because of anything that I do differently now than previously. Mrs. A. also has a Juke (6 months younger than mine) and it's exactly the same with hers . . . . so it's obviously not a fault with just my car - it seems to be universal I wanted to complain (directly to Nissan) about this shortly after buying them, when I realised that the figures were literally 'miles out' but never did (I didn't know where to write to) - apart from about a year ago as mentioned above, to no avail Anyway, now that VW have been 'outed' I hope that Nissan will be similarly investigated for their blatant lies Apart from that we really like our Jukes but my enjoyment is tempered because of this deceit . . . . and that's what it is I wonder how many more similar stories there are
One of our Nissans. The Navara sport pick up is a nightmare on fuel consumption. Only 5/6 Kilometres per litre. Costs a mint.
Over 2 million Audis as well now apparently. Vehicle lines involved include the Audi A1, A3, A4, A5, A6 and the TT, Q3 and Q5 models.
There`s the full thing. Interesting bit about Merc & BMW. The plot thickens. Audi says 2.1m of its cars were fitted with emission cheating software, as Volkswagen is said to have suspended the research and development heads of three divisions. The luxury car brand, which is a subsidiary of Volkswagen, has admitted that millions of its vehicles with so-called EU5 engines have an emissions "defeat device" installed. Newer cars with EU6 engines aren't said to be affected. The news comes as reports suggest the R&D chief of Audi, along with those of Volkswagen's core passenger car division and sports car maker Porsche, is reported to have been put on leave. All three companies have declined to comment. Volkswagen was forced to apologise last week after it was discovered that it had developed the device in order to trick emission tests in the US for some of its diesel models. The devices are able to detect when cars are undergoing tests, and can switch the vehicle to a low emission mode in order to achieve more favourable results. This means that many people have bought cars which are much less environmentally friendly than they had been led to believe. According to the Audi spokesman, around 1.42 million Audi vehicles in Western Europe are fitted with the device, with 577,000 in Germany. Another 13,000 Audi cars in the US are affected. Vehicle lines involved include the Audi A1, A3, A4, A5, A6 and the TT, Q3 and Q5 models. Volkswagen said last week that around 11 million of its cars worldwide have been fitted with the cheat device, 5 million of which were produced directly by its core VW brand. Then CEO of the Volkswagen Group, Martin Winterkorn, has been forced to resign over the revelations after almost nine years in the job and was replaced by Matthias Müller, who has been the chief of another Volkswagen subsidiary, Porsche, since 2010. German investigators subsequently announced they have started an investigation into Winterkorn, which will focus on "allegations of fraud in the sale of cars with manipulated emissions data". Also on Monday, a European environmental organisation said it had found evidence that some new models Mercedes, BMWs and Volkswagen cars are consuming up to 50% more gasoline than lab tests have suggested. The Transport & Environment organisation said that, while they had no evidence of cheat devices similar to those in Volkswagen diesel cars, the gap between fuel economy levels judged in lab tests and those seen in real road driving for gasoline (petrol) cars had risen to 40 percent in the past year. They specifically singled out Mercedes for criticism, suggesting its A, C and E class models showed differences of over 50% between lab tests and real-world performance. The organisation has called on EU governments which have announced investigations as a result of the Volkswagen controversy to broaden their probes to include petrol cars as well.
So, the BMW & Merc is a bit different, it's an MPG thing, which I suppose could be fraudulent mis-selling. I have to say though, I get almost bang on what Coopers told me out of mine, and I don't drive conservatively, and I tend to do short trips, 3-4 miles at a time. Interested to see how this one pans out.
It really is, and becomes a cost of living implication. I never think about it, but a lot of people buy a car based around these things. Massive ****storm brewing.
My wife's just got the C-Class. She's now averaging 52-54 mpg, over the 42-44 mpg she was getting in the CLK. I'm pretty happy with that tbh! I'm only getting 28-30 mpg from mine
Got it spot on It would ground his stots into the - well - ground As this is a car thread I'll say I drive a Peugot 207 It's red and it goes. That's all I need to know about it
Sorry, haven't read full thread so if you're argument is women only interested in colour of cars, I'll kind of go along with it. not even interested in that, as long as it goes, could be sky blue pink with dots on. Attitude brought on by a youth of my dad promising to take us to wherever as long as car started . Can't remember the name of the road with the steep bank just along from Pennywell WMC, but I've pushed many a car down it
Manufacturer MPG figures are rarely achievable on road as they are tested in the lab - rolling road, no wind resistance, no passengers, very slow/unrealistic acceleration, no hills, etc, etc. The figures are not supposed to tell you what MPG you will get, they are just to allow you to compare the car to other cars (all tested under the same lab conditions). VWs cheating with the diesel NOX figures was possible because they could program the ECU to recognise when it was being tested - but it doesn't necessarily mean they or any other manufacturers were lying about their MPG figures, only the emissions. And well done if you have managed to beat manufacturer MPG claims. Is everywhere you drive downhill from home ?
Also, don't underestimate the effect of crappy fuel on MPG - there are a few supermarket petrol stations I avoid after bad experiences.
Cheers Gil Guessing we were brought up pretty close to each other I lived in Pimlico Road That near you ?
