I don't see the connection between LAMackem's post and your own. LAMackem was on about how it takes time evolves a squad as ****ed up as ours and how the squad situation effects our present transfer business. The only connection I see in your post is in the first sentence where you agree with us. Then you focus on a tactics of an individual game. That's where you completely lost me sorry fella. All managers get it wrong, most get it wrong a lot. What LAMackem said was 100% reality imo, it will take us many a transfer window and many outgoings to sort us out and that's everything goes right which is a big ask, we'll face blips, massive setbacksw and could even fail. The reality is the squad would never been fixed this window, the reality is we will struggle this season as most people predicted. We are in the very early stages of a yet another rebuild. That's the reality, it's simply where we're at.
In a way you are correct. Another rebuild. Im a manager of a construction company. Rebuilds are both time consuming and expensive in the long run. Msny times its easier to knock the **** down and start again.
If we go down we get to knock it down and start from scratch, that's if we're not plunged into financial turmoil. But the money at stake means we have to try and live the gaff as we renovate, it would stand a better chance of lasting longer if we didn't bodge it but the head investor is insisting on shoddy materials and equipment which means the foreman and architect have had to obtain unserviced machinery which hasn't been used in a very long time.
I think this is what Dick is going to do....that's why the other week we seen Catts, Larsson and Rodwell on all bench. O'Shea has been on the bench with Fletcher, Graham etc....he's going to knock it all down....it's a difficult route to take especially at the same time trying to keep us in the Premier League but....we can't keep fire fighting...as I think you said we will get burnt sometime...but I think it needs to be done....all I'm saying lets give Dick time and support to do the job. If he can't do it with his experience and contacts....don't know who else can after the failures we have had before him... One big thing I want to give Dick credit for is that he is trying to change us into a more attacking and entertaining team. Yes, I know that may have exposed the back four a bit....but again if the players had done their jobs this may not as necessarily happened...thinking Catts at Leicester and Villa. Not getting at Catts by the way because yesterday I thought he was our best player....but it's nice to see this happening after the recent years of negative dross....sideways, sideways, back. The team will evolve....but there was parts of the Spurs game I thought......I like this a lot. He will get us there but we have to hang in short term for a bumpy ride...not for long hopefully
Of course he won't see out the season. You'll get worse and worse until he's sacked, leaving the next chap with an improbable task to survive, at which point the players will go "oh ****, best start playing now", and suddenly you'll be world beaters as per usual! Honestly, if Sunderland planned the sackings correctly, one before the season and one midway, they'd coast the league!
It's true though isn't it? At least you guys have that hope that you do it every season, whereas we just seem to have that air of grim inevitability. At some point someone will have to wonder if the Sunderland managers actually do anything, and if it's not just the team being lazy pricks.
Reality is not last August. Nor is it next January. Reality is NOW. I already agreed with LAMakem that his comment was a long-term reality and perfectly correct.. Then I swapped to the last game we played, i.e. the last example of reality we have, when Larsson was put on for Toivonen. Nobody doubts Seb's work ethic - he's very good - but tell me what he was supposed to defend please - a 2-0 defeat? I don't disagree with your long term view. What I'm beginning to dislike very much is a league that is beginning to drift out of our reach. LAMakem said the way forward is win 3. Well, even that will only get us to tenth - and that's if all of the nine teams in between lose. Win the next three out of three? - do you seriously regard that as reality when we haven't managed to win one out of seven yet? Well, o.k.. Let's all agree on one thing - your idea of reality and mine are different. Yes?
I never said win 3....I think that is on another post. All I referred to was a couple of games can change things very quickly. What was trying to get across is the league is played over 38 games and not 7. Look at Leicester last season with 10 games to go they were down and out and then they produced a 'Sunderland'. Would I want us to be in this position at the moment...no certainly not...but it is what it is and we just need a way forward. In this league you can still win the next three or four games and still get relegated. It's where we will be at the end of game 38 that counts. Regards yesterdays game of who came on and who played where that is all a matter of opinion. The opinion that counts is 'Dicks'....will get get it right every time no....hindsight is a wonderful thing. I have confidence in the manager in getting us to where we need to be over the 38 games....hang in there...it will come right mate
No that's the present. Reality isn't a time, it's the state of things as they actually exist. I haven't given a long term view, I've stated the future could have various outcomes(it going right, blips,setbacks and failure) and i've pondered what's led us to this position. But the reality is to me we're in the early stages of another rebuild which is limited due to our present circumstances and with that we have a very tough season ahead. I've not said anything about winning three on the trot, think that's a question meant for someone else but for what it's worth, I think it's unlikely. but that isn't reality it's probability. Must be crossed wires in definitions aye mate.
See #73 on this very thread r.e. "win 3". Winning 3 will not even move us half way up this league - that's the point I'm making. It's moving away from us unless we begin building up points very quickly now.
Well o.k., let's put it another way. "The state of things as they actually exist" - let's not call it reality, shall we? - is 2 points out of 21. That is what "actually exists".
It does indeed. To put it really simple. But there's factors beyond the league table, that's what I've been exploring this evening.
When Spurs came to SOL, they were 15th. Even after that unconvincing win, things were pretty dire for Spurs in the media. When City left WHL yesterday, Spurs were 5th, and Dier was being touted for the National team. In between, a team from Azerbaijan scored first at White Heart Lane in the Europa League, but then their new signing scored a brace, and Spurs have been rolling ever since. All I'm saying is, this is the Premier League, on any given day... So go kick somebody's ass, and lets get this thing going.
See #73 on this very thread r.e. "win 3". Winning 3 will not even move us half way up this league - that's the point I'm making. It's moving away from us unless we begin building up points very quickly now.
Can totally live with that. Analyse the Spurs win as their performance did not deserve the result as it was based on benefit of offside decisions, a poor goalkeeping effort and the luck of a rebound that could have gone anywhere but Kane and an empty goal. All part of the game, but harsh on the opposition.
Yep, why is Duncan Watmore not playing for the 1st team. I know he is rubbish, only getting a hat trick against the man ****ty u21's last week and getting the goal for the draw against Everton u21's this w/e. He got our only goal in the 20-mins he was allowed on the pitch against Norwich and of course he is an u21 international with 6-goals in 2-games, what has the lad got to do FFS. At least IMO, start playing to our strengths and get some goals, that's what breeds confidence, that's what starts a run of form. Playing Johnson, with what is going on in his life, I don't think was at all sensible, keep him out of the way in the reserves and get people on that are truly focused on the game KTF and desperately want DA to succeed, but, like all of us, fekin hurting yet again.
Maybe, one inspired individual effort could earn the win, which inspires the confidence to attract good fortune.
The concern is warranted. Loose the next three and the hole may be too deep; but win two of the next three and we'll be talking about the player's gutsy performances and not the managers decisions.
