^^ What's FFS I'm done with Rodgers. Get him out. He's absolutely clueless and blind to the obvious Might come back to bite me on the arse if he miraculously manages to turn it around but after that dross I very much doubt it
The fact we're comparing the two shows you just how bad we've become. The two teams have pros and cons, but the whole atmosphere at the club and style of play are both similar.
If Rodgers has any understanding of the club at all he'll realise that he has failed in what he wanted to acheive and that he has lost the majority of fans. He has not stuck to his principals and his death by football promise. What he is serving up is not acceptable and if he was man enough to admit this and resign he would at least have our respect. If he continues he'll eventually be sacked and be seen as another Roy, someone who the fans cannot abide. It's all down to him walk and admit your failings or eventually leave under a cloud.
Rodgers is worse. Why? Because he's had £300m and 4 years to take a cup winning team containing one of the best players in the world to this shower of sh*t. Case closed
It aint the players, it's the setup. I dunno what the **** Rodgers is working on in training, mainly move the ball out wide run and overlap until there is three of you in a congested area, lose the ball or recycle it and take a poor shot from range, rinse and repeat.
We couldn't even get in behind Carlisle ffs. We're looking at 8th place at best the way things are going
I'm not protecting Brod in anyway here, he signed up to the job and he's been involved in the restructure etc too so he deserve the criticism he's getting. He also continuously makes the same mistakes when picking the team and continuously picks his favourites. He still doesn't know his best formation and line-up. For a manager that's been in reign for over three years, that is astonishing! However, I think there are things we don't know that are restricting what he can and can't do. We know FSG have installed a low basic wages with lucrative bonuses so players can be on high levels of pay but is that competitive enough? There is a list of players we've been heavily linked to that have then refused to join us. Sure, you can blame a lack of CL football (although we were able to offer that to some) but Suarez joined when we couldn't offer that. Who wouldn't want to join a club playing the type of quality football we were playing in 2013-14? We look fairly certain of gaining CL football then too yet Willian, Costa, etc turned us down still. Then there is the age restrictions, FSG want us to mainly buy youth players. How many players have been targeted only for FSG to say they're too old? How does the transfer committee work? If there are five (random figure as I don't know) on the committee, do all five have to agree? If this is the case then Henry, Ayre and Brod all claiming Brod as the final say on any transfers is technically true. If the all five don't have to agree, how does Brod have the final say? Is it a majority vote but if Brod say no it doesn't happen? How can a manager set his team up how he wants it if his hands are tied in such a way? As I said, I'm not making excuses for Brod, he agree to be part of this setup so he must take the blame just as much as FSG do. The problem for Brod is, there are the others things to do with team selection too. In short, what I am saying is, I think Brod needs to go because bar one season (which also included mediocre performances) and a ten-twelve game purple patch last season (when we didn't play anyone of note I'll add), he's made the same mistakes over and over and he doesn't appear to be learning from them. But changing the manager won't alter the issues behind the scenes. Sure, a new manager now will see a honeymoon period where the new guy gets more out of Brod's players but what happens once that period is over? Do we continue to repeat the three-four year cycle?
That's where we need the right man in, someone who knows the job and who has experience so will dictate what needs to be done while getting results and backing up the fact that he's the manager and knows best when it comes to football matters. At this point it seems Rodgers is searching for an answer other than driving his plan and as you say that's just not acceptable.
Wouldn't that just be covering the cracks? I can understand the recruitment criteria (age) and I we aren't short of cash to spend with the looks of the last few windows either but the wage structure is killing us. We've been poor in the transfer market and I think we could pick better players than we have but would they join us even if we could offer CL football? When we had that, we signed Lallana, Lovren, Balotelli, Lambert, Moreno and Mankiller, which one of those wouldn't have joined us if we couldn't offer CL football...?
So far this season we've managed to win three games... 1) a fortunate win against Stoke 2) a very lucky win at Bournemouth 3) Carlisle on penalties Other than that, the only game of note is the 0-0 draw away to Arsenal but although we should have had that won in the first twenty minutes, overall we deserved to lose imo. I don't think I need to mention West Ham, Man Utd, Bordeaux and Norwich (although obviously I have now) For the record, the worst team we've faced (Carlisle) are about as good as anyone we faced in pre-season!
Do you think "transfer committees" exist at Chelsea, Arsenal, City or OT? Don't think their managers would take the jobs there if they were being told who to sign, what the age requirement has to be, offering low wages by comparison to other ambitious clubs. Rodgers is manager in name only and if the likes of Klopp or Ancelotti were to replace Rodgers they'd want(rightly so the way the game is now)total control of football matters. Then if it goes tits up they can't hide behind shared responsibility or committee decisions, they'd be singularly and totally responsible for what happens on the pitch.
If we didn't have a goal that was declared illegal and not had one good one against us ruled out, we would have had only one win. Carlisle was a draw after 120 minutes and a win on penalties. So only one legitimate win and really should have been 5 points in the league. At the moment there is no team against us we could be confident of saying that our team is better. Villa? GK Defence midfield or Attack -in which section of the system is our team superior to Villa?
That one legitimate win including a Stoke goal (before we'd scored) incorrectly ruled out for offside too.
I hate how bad we are with Rodgers. I hated how bad we were with Woy. Rodgers as an individual I don't hate. Woy I strongly dislike. Rodgers has intent to be better. Woy was content being Crap. Rodgers had 1 successful season. Rodgers signs young players with potential who might one day be good. Woy signed players who were good back in the glory days that he could still get an errection. Although results are equally bad under both managers at least Rodgers has a few silver linings. Woy was just bad in every way.
Blueshite McNutly firmly in Brendan's corner, and pinpointing Gerrard's slip as the reason we never won the title. Ask Phil... Football please log in to view this image Phil McNulty BBC Sport chief football writer Posted at14:59 Jamie DeNiro Williams: If Kenny Dalglish can be sacked after winning a trophy and "wasting" money on Andy Carroll and Stewart Downing, why is Brendan Rodgers being allowed to remain after no trophies in three years and over £200m spent? Did he win LFC second place? Or did his tactical naivety lose them 1st place? Fair point on Dalglish, Jamie. I was just never quite sure Kenny was the type of manager FSG really wanted - but a fine spell as caretaker and the manner in which he was loved by fans understandably got him the job. please log in to view this image Getty Images When appointing Rodgers, FSG invested a lot of faith and money in him and he was the young, modern, progressive sort of coach they wanted, willing to work within their infrastructure. He is their man so they are giving him every chance to succeed. As for the title, I am afraid I cannot stand some of the current revisionism about Rodgers. He and his players did brilliantly in finishing second - and he is a manager who was probably a man falling over away from winning Liverpool's first title in 24 years. He deserves huge credit for his work that season. Yeah ok Phil, and like there weren't any other games where bad ref decisions or bad backpasses that gifted the opposition goals etc took their toll on our challenge.
