Happy? well if city put in the effort they have in games apart from the reading match i wont be complaining and crying about it. teams at this level often reallydo cost tens of millions. BCFC are not in that position I can see how SL is going about dealing with that. Nobody sill has answered the question . Can somebody explain without the redevelopment academy and training facilities and putting City tens of millions into more debt how City can afford to aim higher?
Personally I hope that Bristol City pursue a similar route to "progress" as Southampton have. That cannot be achieved without the stadium re-development, investment in the academy. I would like to see Mr Lansdown ignore the calls for irresponsible [again] spending and invest further in infra structure, turning the academy into a level one cente of excellence, backed up by a Sporting facility for football development centres on Ashton Vale [now permitted] and associated performance analysis e.g Sportscode etc. The above would be allied to a more European approach employing 4-3-3 through the pathway and coever coaching principles. This does not rule out spending millions on players but is more socially conscious, is true to the essence of a regional club / centre of excellence and can be more easily sustainable. Others would prefer being QPR.
Doing things properly takes time - there will be up's and down's along the way - just remember where we were 2 years ago! Quite agree. But I think what scares us (and has the potential to disappoint an awful lot of people if the worst happens), is where we might be 2 years from now.
In a brand new shiny stadium with 10000 people kicking around it.Certainly not what us fans envisaged or the owner.
No one gets relegated in September, so stop being negative and see the sort of performance (barring Reading) are winning performances. We just need to shore up goals conceded which we've tried to address by two premier league defenders. The trouble is you want actions yesterday, let's see at the end of October. Because at this stage of the season 3 years ago you said we was dark horses for promotion, and look how that turned out. Like Red Alert and Cliftonville says, we've cat 2 acadamy, a new stadium rebuild if anything perhaps last season was a bit too quick and we could of done with coming up when the stadium is finished. So then we could compete financially in this league.
agree with red alert, think of club as a pyramid and only when the base of that pyramid- ie the stadium, training facilities, and top class acadamie are in place can we really look to progress.
no we haven't I was just saying I hope that it doesn't happen too soon, I'm quite impressed with our fans at the mo, hope it continues that's all.
I'm worried that everyone is on the same page and all pulling in the right direction that's all, I don't know how much we're losing cash wise, and I'm very happy to have a new stadium as it can bring in money and hopefully with improvement on the pitch better players, seems you are trying to paint me into a negative corner, I'm just worried like many that's all.
But unless we start getting points on the board in a hurry, we will be doing all this building for the future back in Lge One again. I have seen 7 relegation seasons in my lifetime and without meaning to be alarmist, the performance on Saturday showed me that last season's confident squad which dug out wins and draws, has all but disappeared. I really hope that I am wrong, and I don't want to be a moaning Minnie before the end of September but unless we start winning some, any minutes shred of confidence will be gone.
Cider you've no right to be alarmist, upset and lacking confidence because we have gained five points from a possible 24 or City have won just once in eight games or because City are joint bottom, we are going to continue playing the right way, all of the happy clappers are going to be most unhappy with you, now feel yourself most admonished.
Have you worked out that in future there will be a synergy between gates and the revenue the stadium will produce? Bristol City without the redeveloped stadium would not be able to increase significantly expenditure on the squad.
We should be controlling our own destiny but first we need to understand what's required and I am not confident that we know what we want, and until that time we will continue to spin our wheels.
For me that's part of the problem Mike. As a lot of us have noticed and commented on, we talk the talk but when it comes down to walking the walk we don't appear to know how to and we continue to stumble along. I have absolutely no faith that there is a cogent blueprint for even stabilising ourselves in this division let alone pushing on in the seasons to come. Unfortunately it's all Deja Vu all over again, and the outward impression is that the club is still run by clueless amateurs, just as it has been for the 40 odd years I've been following us.
I don't entirely agree with that statement. Clearly there is a grand scheme in place which is the stadium but this was in limbo for years which didn't help improve the perception... As I said before, it is catch 22. We need the stadium to increase our income and spending capacity which is the priority however it would be hoped that we can at least stabilise the situation with a couple of decent quality loans. The fees associated with these appears to be the sticking point though however the question is, is it worth paying to retain our Championship status...? Surely this has to be a yes....
A big part of what was Bristol city is now ran by Bristol Sport who have a background in hotels etc proper professionals who are there to get money into Bristol Sport via the new facilities then into the club to help it run more efficiently. there is a blueprint right there forty million redevelopment and people with back grounds in hotels corporate sector etc. that will help City stabilise in future.
That's all well and good, but I hope we don't have to go back to L1 and have to start all over again on the football side as that can't be good business whichever way you look at it.
For me the question is how do City, with a fan base of let's say 16,000, compete with teams in the Championship who are getting gates that are 20,000+ We must get the right infrastructure in place i.e. ground redevelopment etc This goes hand-in-hand with getting it right on the pitch so that people actually come. Let's remember - we support Bristol City and nothing ever comes easy does it?
fully understand that,however you need a product which is desirable both on the field and off it,looks like it will be desirable of it,however on it, it looks like being a problem. Relegation has to be unthinkable,however to stop this a lot needs changing and quickly at the gate. SC needs to pull his head out of sand.the players at his disposal do not seem good enough in the championship to play 3-5-2 that is what i see week in,week out so far.
And city would have more abilty to come back stronger. as the next post points out how do City with a fan base of let's say 16,000, compete with teams in the Championship who are getting gates that are 20,000+ and get parachute payments and have modern stadium bringing in more money on non matchdays. It has to be a new ground academy and facilities instead of spend spend debt loss debt of the last seven years[??].
So if you're accepting that relegation is a distinct possibility this season, then it begs the question why did we bother with promotion last year at all ? Maybe it's me, but I see no logic in this, if it really is the clubs approach which I have to seriously doubt. Frankly we may as well have stayed where we were rotting in L1 until such time as those in power thought we were ready to move on. Not even City operate like this, do they ? I don't remember other smaller clubs than us stopping their march to the promised land by yo-yoing up and down from L1 and the Championship waiting to 'come back stronger' ? I'm talking about the likes of Wigan, Bolton, Blackburn, Swansea, Reading, Bournemouth etc. I quite accept that plenty of clubs do yo-yo between the Premiership and Championship but that's a whole different scenario and with a whole lot more money involved. Relegation for us this season will be a total disaster and people wont be fooled again if it's allowed to happen without so much as a fight. That's my assessment of it. Words from the owner/manager/players mean nothing and nor do good performances when they realise no points. Results and survival are all that matter this season. This club could easily realise average attendances of 26,000 or more in the Premiership.
