Premier League Thread 2015-16

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideo...nned-for-fifa-16-it-was-an-odd-process-video/
Video of Saints getting scanned for FIFA 16.

 

Not sure how the hell Gabriels red card was rescinded, Costa instigated it yeah and is deservedly banned but Gabriels was still a red card offence. Ridiculous from the FA and maybe set a dangerous precedent.

 

Yeah, it kinda suggests you can retaliate with probable cause. Dodgy indeed.

 

I was wondering that. What does our resident refereeing expert say about it?

 

Sunderland are very much the whipping boys of the Premier League, and I think they know it. I kind of feel sorry for them because I know how awful it must be. Both Tyne and Wear aren't going through the happiest of football times, it has to be said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34328944

It reminds me of several seasons in Saints history when we were ripe for a 0-5 or a 1-6 or more. Thankfully, that hasn't happened for a very long time except against Arsenal in our first season back in the PL.

 

And what was the red card bit.?

 

He flicked his leg out at Costa, also aimed a slap towards his face (both red card offences), so why does he get off?

Obviously Costa getting a ban is the right decision but I think the FA have ****ed up massively here. As history says, it suggests you can retaliate without punishment if there was cause? I see a **** load of appeals heading the FA's way now.

 

OK, I didn't see the slap, but I noticed the leg flick. On its own I didn't believe it was anything too bad. Not as bad as Mr Beckham from years ago, and that wasn't worthy of a red card either. Costa had the ability to back away before Gabriel got too close. He didn't.

However, if Gabriel slapped him then that's a red. Presumably, he was judged on the extreme goading and provocation Costa was giving him. Costa's behaviour has to have no reward. Perhaps they saw it in that light. I don't think the FA have done anything too wrong.

 

Go to around 50seconds in and you can see the slap just after Costa grabs him. As for your 2nd paragraph is that how it should be done though? Gabriel was stupid to let Costa get to him espescially as he's had run ins with him before. He a got a red card for his stupidity and for commiting a red card offence/s. He should not be let off because Costa 'started it'. Absolutely ridiculous.

 

red card was for Kick out on halfway line. Slap was yellow and dealt with by ref (rightly or wrongly). Decision is whether kick out constitutes violent conduct. Given his studs barely touched shin I suspect they did not think so. I don't have a view either way.

 

Is that really considered violent conduct? (on both sides)

 

Yeah, I see the slap now. Yes, as a whole, Gabriel's actions are worthy of a red. However, both you and I know that Costa has engineered all of that. If he played the game reasonably straight he would be playing the next 3 matches and Gabriel wouldn't have been shown a red. Somewhere along the line you have to judge that a player who provokes and goads other players all the time has to take the rap. Players are not automatons, but people reacting under rare circumstances and there has to be a little understanding. Costa goaded and provoked like this all last season and has continued it until now, largely unpunished. There is no place for his actions on the pitch. He has to be shown he receives no reward for it.

 

Didn't Costa try it on with Fonte, at SMS, last season, with Fonte just keeping his hands to himself and talking to him. Seemed to take the steam out of Costa, when he didn't get an OTT reaction that involved handbags.
Personally, I think the best way to respond to bullies, like Costa, is to grin at them and blow the occasional kiss, then watch the red mist descend.

 

Indeed.

 

I seem to remember seeing a picture of( I believe it was Gabrirels neck )after it had been scratched by Costa.
Worthy of an red card on its own.

 

I suppose the excuse will be if Costa had been sent off before the other stuff then the 'other stuff' wouldn't have happened. Utter rubbish really. Gabriel initially got involved when he didn't have to.

In ice hockey they had the same sort of problem so in NHL you get thrown out on an instigator penalty on top of the original call (in the case of a fight) and in the UK you get a 10-minute 'incitement' penalty on top of the initial penalties.

It's not difficult.

 

Correct. I saw it too. That was before anything had happened.

 

I understand that, and I agree that Costa was a prick and has gotten what he deserves, but I just think it's a dangerous way to judge things. Do you not think all clubs will try and take advantage and cite this now to get red cards rescinded? I can't help but feel the FA have really ****ed up here.

 

Its seems that Jose agrees with us JWP.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34344048

 

Indeed, the headline n opening paragraph read:

"
Jose Mourinho says 'retaliation now allowed' after Gabriel decision
The Football Association has set a dangerous precedent by rescinding the red card given to Arsenal's Gabriel, says Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho."

That's exactly the point we've been trying to make.