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Off Topic VW emission test cheating rocks Europe's car makers

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Baldrick's Cunning Plan, Sep 22, 2015.

  1. Baldrick's Cunning Plan

    Baldrick's Cunning Plan Well-Known Member

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  2. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    They'll not be the only ones...:bandit:
     
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  3. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    The test is a nonsense anyway.
     
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  4. balkan tiger

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    Not long ago petrol was the fuel of the devil and diesel was the future, lots of drivers / companies switched to diesel powered cars.
     
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  5. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    The Euro standards have made air quality worse in quite a few cases.

    The only real solution to reducing emissions is to reduce use.
     
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  6. Plum

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    But since reduced use won't be significant enough to make much difference they've got to make electric cars affordable and practical and push on with development, better batteries, hydrogen cells and whatever else there might be.
     
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  7. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    They just move the point of release, they're not a realistic environmental solution.

    Less use = less production and less resources so the overall effect would be significant, particularly at the local level.
     
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  8. Plum

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    I don't disagree I just think with increasing population, more wealth, more ambition reducing use is a long, long way off.
     
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    I love my Audi and I only wish It had a bigger engine so I could drive (even) faster. Leicester to Hull in under 1hour 30 minutes
     
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  10. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    Probably, but congestion and an increased cost of private motoring could well bring that forward. Cars are marketed as an essential, which they're not. They're a convenience and a pretty good way for oil companies to make profits .

    It's not just tail pipe emissions. Reduced car use would help support local businesses over large stores, and encourage the rebuilding of communities, and reduce the health burden on the NHS from inactivity related disease.
     
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  11. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    I'd want to be away from Leicester a damn site quicker than that.
     
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  12. Happy Tiger

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    Im impressed with how quickly they admitted it, apologised and have set money aside. A few other car companies their size wouldn't have.
     
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  13. DMD

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    It's been on the cards for years. It used to be simple tricks like adding air to the exhaust, so the quantity was the same, but the concentration was reduced. Motorbike companies used to add bits to the bikes to pass the test, but knowing full well the mod to remove it would 'leak' as people wanted performance.
     
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    Makes you wonder if it also affects other cars in the VW group, Seat Audi & Skoda since they share the the same engines.
     
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  15. Evington

    Evington Well-Known Member

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    Agree with that. Clocked up 33 years on Monday. 2 to go and I'm off.
     
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  16. dennisboothstash

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    I owned a Subaru Impreza for a while
    I understand, in theory, hypothetically, it was possible to get from Hull to Birmingham in less that that!
     
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  17. Des Head

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    The diesel engine was invented to run on oil. Rape oil, vegetable oil, whatever. It's just that we found it easier to stick fossil fuel in there.
     
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  18. Happy Tiger

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    Kinell.

    We're winning.

    Allams in!
     
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  19. Happy Tiger

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    They're all the same cars with different cosmetics. Of course it will affect the whole VAG.

    As an aside, does anyone know if this is likely to have knock on effect to consumers? With regards tax bands, ved, BiK...

    I ordered a new vw diesel on Friday, paid a deposit, but if it's going to come with more costs now than it originally would have I want petrol instead (which I have preferred anyway).

    Anyone reckon the stealer will be willing to knock a few more k off after this revelation?
     
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