You have contradicted your own point , everyone working with you is from a private school , you clearly bucked the trend and over achieved otherwise you would have a percentage of state school employees working around you no ? Poor effort for some one so 'intellectual'
The truth is, his political life will be made impossible by the right-wing media. Labour will (rightly) oppose the welfare bill, but this will be portrayed as supporting a welfare bonanza. He doesn't sing the national anthem and he is accused of a lack of respect and of being unpatriotic. If he sings the anthem, or if he kneels before the Queen, he will be accused of abandoning his principles - you accused him of this (tongue-in-cheek, I know) for wearing a tie! The loony left caricature is just that - a caricature. I don't believe, though, that he will try to dictate policy to the Labour party, he will attempt to get a consensus. If he doesn't, his leadership will be very short-lived.
Nope re-read the first line of my post. I said its worth it if your kid isn’t naturally intelligent. If they are then you might as well save your dosh and spend it elsewhere. As SB said it isn’t that uncommon for kids to get all A’s anymore
It's not all about what grades you get at the end of it. The good public schools are great at building up their pupils' confidence and giving them opportunities to get involved in all sorts of extra-curricular activities that the State sector just can't do. There's a reason top jobs in this country are dominated by ex-public schoolchildren beyond just being a vehicle to get good grades- it's an atmosphere which creates leaders
Agree work isn't all about grades. But it is a pretty good filtering process on quality control. But disagree that main focus of school is exam results and if it isn't then private schools are massively inefficient. Would also say that the old boys network is a bigger reason for the dominance but over time this will gradually change. Personal experience is I got my best mates brother work experience at my company and he's now likely to get on the grad scheme. He also didn't go to private school. But I would say that after he's got 20 odd years experience in the industry then that along with his inherent ability will be more important than determining whether he ever becomes a leader. That's one isolated example but actually I believe it's the real reason that it's so heavily dominated. Will also gradually see the same changes with other ethnicitys as well as other social classes. Very low proportion of black or Asian person that I come across in my work 40 but the closer the age range to 21 the less severe that gap becomes. So fortunately I expect that gradually over time that discrimination will also disappear and re-balance
I don't think the old boys network exists much if at all at the graduate level any more. No employer I've come across has cared about which school I went to and university has been a better source of contacts than school. You can't say that a private education isn't better quality. Whether it's value for money is another debate and I'd say it depends on the individual. Smaller classes, better facilities and equipment both for classrooms and extra-curricular activities plus generally better and less stressed teachers on better money. I don't there's much if any discrimination at all any more. If anything, companies are looking to 'positively' discriminate. My own minority (jews) hasn't had a problem gaining a disproportionate level of influence and power.
The Old Boys network and nepotism is rife at graduate level. It is decreasing though (which is my point), particularly at big corporates, but the age you were specifically talking about was 20 plus years ago when many of these private school groomed leaders arrived into their industries. And from that time it was undeniably entrenched. I haven’t said that ‘private education’ isn’t better quality. Whether its value for money is exactly the debate I’ve been raising. And that, the question depends on the individual is also the point I’ve been making. My point was that for those who aren’t naturally intelligent it is worthwhile as it helps you to boost into jobs that you wouldn’t otherwise have been able to reach. There are of course negatives to going to private school. The confidence imbued in some can translate into a sense of entitlement that can then limit how hard they try or how well they interact with others. It also provides an insulated and sheltered life, which can produce a lack of real world experience that makes it difficult to relate to the other 93% of the world around them who didn’t go to private school. This insulation is often part of the parents reasoning to send them to private school. To insulate them from the dangers of a state school world; To say that there isnt discrimination at all any more is a complete fallacy. I went to state school about 6 miles from here and the only person from school I have ever bumped into was a courier delivering a package. Colleague from Bermuda (a population of around 60,000) interact with Bermudian's on a daily basis. While other people who went to school and grew up in far off parts of the country do the same. I can only think of one person who I have dealt with who comes from neighbouring Tower Hamlets (short walk from City) and yes he got in on a programme which picks 4 people up a year from schools in Tower Hamlets before they go to uni. So it is probably those isolated examples that make up an extremely minute proportion of hiring that you see as evidence of this discrimination balancing out. Jewish community has already established these networks. If the 20 plus years ago when the current privately educated leaders applied for a job in finance and at the top of the CV was the name Goldstein and the other had Patel. Its fair to say that Goldstein statistically had a better chance of getting the job.
They are both schools you have to pay for ? Is that the common denominator ? I see what you mean though ... Maybe the term private is just a more recent expression for public ? Who knows ...
Jezza did well at PMQs today, although it did seem a bit like a radio phone in. I wonder if he is going to do that every week. Cameron's reaction was cute as well, not taking the obvious route of having a go at Corbyn (as some of the backbench questioners did), but playing along. Tory strategy is becoming clear, not personally attacking Corbyn, but having a go at Labour as a whole. Corbyn was interesting when interviewed on the BBC News. Very consensual, as Stroller has said, clear statement that Labour would campaign to stay in the EU. Seemed genuinely unaware that he would have to kneel before the Queen to be inducted into the Privy Council and bemused by the concept - refused to answer whether he would do it or not. I don't think he's going to enjoy the media attention at all.
PMQ's should be about holding the PM to account, it was more like watching a phone in interview on This Morning, Cameron must have thought Christmas had come early! They are being smart at the moment not to attack Corbyn yet as it would get him sympathy and in reality he is doing more damage to himself on his own then the Tories could do at the moment. I agree that he isn't going to like being so under the spotlight as much as he probably thought he would, that's what comes with wanting to be PM though.
I listened to PMQs on the radio and thought that Corbyn's approach threw Cameron a little. All very civilised, but if Corbyn is going to continue with questions from the public, he should at least have a follow-up of his own to challenge Cameron's responses.
please log in to view this image Ever since their dangerous liaison Divine Brown has wondered what drives Hugh Grant’s recklessness. Divine — who made more than $1 million in media deals and public appearances after her and Grant’s tryst She said: “He finished his private school and his colleges and stuff like that, he had that real person inside of him that couldn’t wait to come out and be the man that he is today. That’s what I saw in him, it was natural to him. I was scared that night and he was normal. In contrast to her past, church and gardening take up most of her time these days, she said: “I am a Christian and go to church and I like gardening. “I came here for a normal life, it’s beautiful out here, the greenery, the hospitality. “Derionna is in private school, I’m in the PTA, we make cupcakes and lemonade together, and we do cheerleading. I have always been a hands-on mum. “I don’t regret meeting Hugh Grant that night. I did what I did, I got out (of prostitution) when I did. I made a lot of money, and also I spent a lot of money in the past. ww.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/hugh-grants-exhooker-divine-brown-he-cant-control-himself/story-fn907478-1226830263737
With a bit of luck, Her Majesty will take the sword she uses to knight people with and cut the ignoramus's head off!
