I've said exactly the same elsewhere, TSS. I actually have more respect for Corbyn the more he gets kicked, and the more he stands up for his views. He certainly can't be accused of 'chasing the vote'.
Even though his views are completely ****ed up? He thinks there's no need for the army for ****s sake.
Yes, Tom. I believe in freedom of opinion, speech and yes, freedom of the press. But you know what, I kind of respect the bloke for the fact that he doesn't pander to the media. I'd consider myself to be liberal on social issues and perhaps slightly more towards centre-right on economics - so Corbyn is by no means my 'cup of tea' politically. But I do hold a certain amount of respect for the fact that he is a conviction politician and he quite frankly doesn't give a toss if the right-wing media want to continue to assassinate him through their reporting. If he believes something, he says it and he acts on it. If only there were more like him across the political spectrum. Who knows, that might even get people to the polling station.
Dont think its just the right wing media that are taking a pop at him. He is certainly not my cup of tea, i saw enough of his type of rabid socialist back in the 70's almost wrecking this country. Most of them turn out to be more capitalist than any tory.
Voice acting will be interesting. Scarlett Johansson and Bill Murray seem good choices for Kaa and Baloo. Less convinced by Idris Elba, the reason Shere Khan was so great was that George Sanders made him sound aristocratic and arrogant..will have to wait and see i suppose. Also, Christopher Walken as King Louie
There's plenty more to harangue Corbyn for than just not singing about something he doesn't believe in. That's my point.
In your last post you were fairly singling his praises Connor ! Fair enough though, i was just making my point that over my life time ive found most of these socialists as phoney as f... when it comes down to it.
I'm not singing his praises. Certainly not for his policies and his politics. The only thing - politically - I have commended him on is creating a post to focus on mental health. That aside, I respect his conviction and principled attitude, but I'm not a fan of his hard-left politics.
People in all parties are of all types. Socialists range from ordinary nice people to raving loonies. And Conservatives range from ordinary nice people to raving loonies. The fact is that the majority of people in this country are decent people and to the right of centre....they are definitely not approaching communism in the political spectrum and any party that thinks that is doomed to fail. For the moment, Labour have been taken over by people who think they know best for others....the voting public are wrong and should be ignored. I loathed Blair and I can understand the desire in Labour to move away from him, but he knew that you can do more in power than out of it.
The only thing I would take issue with is that the general public are politically right of centre. I think they are pretty much centre. I also know it's not popular to think so these days, but I admired Tony Blair for his ability to see right through all the BS and get to the core of a problem. He also knew that Labour doesn't get elected by being thoroughly socialist. He was actually an acceptable centre Thatcher type of politician, until he went to war with Iraq in order to oust Saddam Hussein.
Yes many of them are. Just, as Fran says above, are many labour people as well as others. The majority of the human race are decent people. My point was that i have seen so many socialist leaders,presidents, PM's, councilors, MP's, union leaders, union conveners, etc, etc that spout all forms of socialism and yet it turns out that in reality the majority of them love all the trappings of a capitalist life style. Labour will never get into power in this country in the near future with such a far left leader as the majority of people in this country do not believe in his ideals.
The major thing that he will have to tone down is his view on defence...at a time when ordinary people are concerned about borders and terrorism. The British people are not pro-war, but certainly understand the need to act. And he should be very careful about showing any disrespect to the armed forces who are very dear to the British heart....he may feel that he is being true to principles, but he must be very careful how he expresses that.
I agree that in 1997 this country needed Tony Blairs New Labour, as was reflected in his landslide victory. He had a good blend that appealed to the majority of us, including many long-term Tory voters. He certainly made a massive mistake backing George Bush wrt Iraq, but at the time i do believe that he thought it was the right thing to do. Unfortunately countries like Iraq do not conform to the ideals of us westerners, they are very very tribal and the only way to keep them somewhere near stable is to have a strong tough person at the top. Some of their methods dont sit too well with most of us but we can now see the alternative in many of these countries. I believe that Blair thought that he was doing the right thing, but my goodness he continues to take a lot of stick for that decision.
Sobering thought but a strong tyranny in countries like this could be in our best interests if it maintains peace. And often it is better for the ordinary people as all they want is to be left in peace...revolution by usually self-serving people rarely helps those caught in the middle. Obviously there are exceptions like North Korea.
"A total of 11,334,576 people voted Conservative not because the Tories are cruel, stupid or evil" - Tony Parsons, of all people. I do find it disappointing that Tories tend to be attacked based on who they are and what they are perceived to be like while Labour tends to be attacked for what it says. It rather blunts the quality of the debate. Vin
Yes, I think he did, and still does to this day. Politically, it was the first thing he'd got wrong. He should have waited for a mandate from the UN. However, Bush was gung-ho for going into Iraq, and I have always thought that, if he was determined that he was going, then someone like Blair was the best politician to stop him from any US excesses. Westerners do forget that, at the time, the people of Iraq were glad that Hussein was removed. Blair continues to suffer criticism because his own party generates it. The rest of the political party machines gladly heap it on top of him, knowing he won't be defended.
I detest the press and the thought that the BBC could be sacrificed to save the Sun and the Mail fills me with horror. Just remember that Corbyn made a very important point about the Tory's denial of poverty in Britain the other day. The press ignored that and proceeded to attack Corbyn for not singing a dirge supporting a medieval institution and not having his tie adjusted correctly. I don't think Corbyn is the right man for the labour party but his character assassination of the last few weeks is an absolute disgrace. Yesterday the Times devoted six whole pages to attacking him. Not news reporting but political propaganda. The present government's attack on the BBC is the greatest threat to democratic freedom I have ever witnessed.
This is one of the reasons I dislike politics! Like them or not, too many people judge politicians by their appearance. Michael Foot and William Hague are examples from the red and the blue side, who were both ridiculed for their appearance. I'm not saying either were good or bad, but neither had a chance at decent credibility.
