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Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Sunderland AFC

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  1. Spurlock

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    Anyone who thinks they can say 'cattermole' and 'played the ball' in the same sentence...doesn't really understand football.
     
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  2. PleaseNotPoll

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    Modric played the ball and Cattermole fouled him badly. <ok>
     
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  3. PleaseNotPoll

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    He looks fat. Clearly a talented player but he's well out of shape and ran out of steam in the first half.
    If Advocaat can get him to apply himself and get his fitness sorted, then they've got a real player on their hands.
     
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    Unless in that context <laugh>
     
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  6. No Kane No Gain

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    So what was the difference between Cattermole's and Mason's to you that makes one a red and one a yellow?

    For me the difference is that Cattermole goes into the challenge totally out of control. He jumps into the challenge(1) and when he reaches the ball his leading foot is well off the ground when it doesn't need to be(2) and then catches Modric high on the leg with his other leg(3) as at this point he's totally out of control. It's reckless in the extreme.

    Had he gone in lower and with one foot, he may still have caught Modric on the foot or ankle, much like Mason's and then for me wouldn't be a red. As you say, his leading foot bounces off the top of the ball but why on Earth was his foot that high in the first place? There's no reason he couldn't have slid in with one foot close to the ground the sameway most other footballers make a tackle.

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    How is it not a potential leg breaker? If he catches Modric's standing leg at any point in that challenge there's a very good chance he breaks his leg. Luckily Modric was on his toes and luckily he didn't poke the ball away because then he'd have got the full brunt of Cattermole's leading leg, with all his weight behind it, to the shin.
     
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  7. remembercolinlee

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    I rarely disagree with everything written but in this case I do...think you are viewing this through very tinted specs mate....hope your season picks up
     
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  8. marcusblackcat

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    He catches the ball first before anything else? How is masons not a potential leg breaker? I agree my rose tinted specs say yellow for cattermole. And he got a yellow. Your specs said yours wasn't a foul. Did cattermole not get the ball before the man? As mason did? So, by your argument, how is masons not a potential leg breaker? Second picture clearly shows cattermoles foot on the ball! So negating the argument and proving how one sided your arguments all are! #pointless
     
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    So did Mason.
     
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    But you think cattermole should've been sent off? So where's your logic?
     
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  12. PleaseNotPoll

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    Because getting the ball wasn't the relevant part.
    Cattermole's challenge was totally out of control, two footed, straight legged and very high.
    Mason's was one footed and he didn't jump into it. It wasn't reckless or excessive.

    The Mason challenge is debatable as a foul and a stretch for a yellow. Cattermole's was largely called a red and the least it could've been was a yellow.
    You think that it should be the other way round, though you've not given any reason why you think the Mason one was worse.

    I checked who the Sky panelists for the game were, by the way.
    They had their usual unbiased selection. Dwight Yorke and Niall Quinn! <laugh>
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  13. No Kane No Gain

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    You're drawing totally the wrong conclusions from what I said. I've mentioned getting the ball but never in relation to it being the difference between a potential leg breaker and a fair challenge. I also said Cattermole got some of the ball but that doesn't mean it wasn't high and it wasn't reckless.

    I guess I'll have to wait until MOTD2's put on demand to see the Mason one again there didn't look an awful lot wrong with it to me at the time and it certainly wasn't a 2 footed lunge like Cattermole's.
     
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    Ah I see. 2 footed (even though the photos show one foot forward until the third picture when his second foot comes through as he is incapable of leaving it!) look again at the second photo. One foot on the ball, the other leg bent in behind underneath him. Negates your argument totally!

    I think the other way around because I'm a Sunderland fan. I agree Cattermoles was a little reckless but it was due to the foot hitting the top of the ball. It annoys the hell out of me when people use a photo to prove a point when the real story looks completely different at full speed. Cattermoles foot was so high on Modric only because it hit the ball. I can't find a video but I remember it vividly. He hardly made any contact with Modric! Mason followed through after the ball and could've easily broken Borinis leg. I've seen it a few times and SSN presenter said the same through the night when I saw it. All of his studs on the side of Borinis leg around 6" up. But that's not even a foul
     
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    He's incapable of not following through with his other foot? What? Why?
    There's absolutely no reason for him to do it.

    Which Sky presenter are you talking about and how many games did they play for you?
    Was it Dwight Yorke (61) or Niall Quinn (218, plus time as coach, manager, part-owner and Director of International Development)?
     
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  16. PowerSpurs

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    That's actually out of date and the laws on tackling have changed. But the incidents we are talking about were not tackles because neither player had possession.

    Mason went for a loose ball got it cleanly and Borini arrived late and got in the way of Mason's follow through. Not a foul just a collision. Cattermole launched himself at the ball with Modric already directly behind it and lost control and went straight through him. At least reckless so a yellow.
     
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  17. No Kane No Gain

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    Anyway, moving on to other things. Alli loves a nutmeg:



    Down the park we used to have a 5 seconds of shame rule for a nutmeg where you're not allowed to move and just have to stand there and think about what just happened to you. Hope they introduce this to the Premier League.
     
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  18. Dier Hard

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    Borini, Kroos and Modric have all fallen victim to the serial nutmegger, our thoughts and prayers are with them at this embarrassing and devastating time. <rose>
     
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  19. The Huddlefro

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    Just seen the extended highlights on Spurs website. Dier and Mason look a balanced combination in midfield and assuming that they can continue to grow into their roles then I'm happy with that arrangement.

    The goal was lovely to watch. That is exactly the kind of football we want to be playing.
     
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  20. Spudulike

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    I'd be happy to give him a chance if he got rid of that stupid haircut. He looks like a knob.
     
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