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Off Topic Corbyn romps it!! Happy days!!

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  1. Rangers Til I Die

    Rangers Til I Die Well-Known Member

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    I'm not so sure this heralds the death of the Labour Party. It's just possible that old style, more left and, dare I say, working class folks might just decide they do want to vote for a man like Corbyn as opposed to either Blair or Milliband who were never really perceived as men of the people. Blair initially maybe but that did not last for long. Just a thought to put out there.
     
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  2. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    How can a man that has made it his business to rebel against his party all his political life, expect loyalty from anyone?
     
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  3. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    Class has little relevance to party support now. The working class vote is split between diverse parties and I don't see that reverting back
     
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  4. Rangers Til I Die

    Rangers Til I Die Well-Known Member

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    Not sure that is true
    I don't know if thay is true. It may be. I just don't know it to be so. Instead of working class, let me say those who historically voted Labour expecting a socialist government but then got disillusioned and stopped voting.
     
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  5. GoldhawkRoad

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    I understand your point and I'm sure there are traditional voters that will come back. But votes from centre ground supporters may be lost.

    As for working class, a large number support UKIP, and SNP in Scotland, Green and Tory...etc
     
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    Which terrorist organisation will be the first to be invited along for tea and a chat by Corbyn?
     
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    Careful, that's a soon to be Privy Councillor you're talking about. I wonder how that will work.
     
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    Good argument.
     
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    Why is that an argument? you asked a question and I gave you an answer.
     
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    Michael Foot was one so I presume Corbyn will be no different. I can imagine him at the official black tie do's at Buckingham Palace...:grin:
     
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    Corbyn will attract many people (such as me) back to Labour - people who were repulsed by Blair and his cronies. There remains a strong left-of-centre constituency in this country, irrespective of class. The Blairites can **** off to the Tories or form their own Tory-lite party. We've got our Labour back.
     
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  12. Hoops Eternal

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    Corbyn is against austerity measures, correct me if I'm wrong but aren't we in this state courtesy of the last Labour government? If he has his way we will be the next Greece!
     
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  13. Star of David Bardsley

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    You generally have to be pretty bright to get in to these schools even if you do have cash. The entrance exams are far tougher than the 11+. I got a scholarship for a public school- surely it's a good thing if they are accessible to a whole range of people?
     
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  14. Star of David Bardsley

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    I'd add that the OP comes across as a bit of a ****
     
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  15. GoldhawkRoad

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    Yes, there are those who come back, and there will be some disenchanted with politics who like what they see in Corbyn. It's going to be interesting. Can this man who has no experience of leadership or even in office in shadow government, satisfy all in Labour's broad church? My bet will be not. Indeed Peter Mandleson may be plotting for a new party as we write. If there's a split, Corbyn will presumably make common cause with the SNP. Beyond that is Mystic Meg territory...
     
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    Corbyn went to a fee paying school (of course he can't be blamed for his parents wanting what they thought was best for him). He got 2 E's at A Level. Later he dropped out of North London Poly without a qualification. And divorced his first wife because she felt the local comp was no good and wanted their son (I think) to go private (or it may have been to a grammar school). At least that's how she tells it.

    I would love it if state schools were so good that private education is made redundant. I was a big beneficiary of a good state education, but unfortunately that wasn't available for my kids so I have spent a huge amount of dosh on their education. **** principles when quality and futures are at stake. I'd like to see Corbyn's approach to improving state education rather than this populist stuff which will just mean private schools will no longer offer places to kids from less well off backgrounds and stop sharing facilities with local state schools. In one step he will both alienate parents who make many sacrifices to send their kids to private schools, because fees will go up, and probably harm the state system and place more pressure on it. Genius.
     
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  17. Hoops Eternal

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    I went to a huge comprehensive school in north west London and my education was absolute crap, I look back on it with immense bitterness. I get the distinct impression that Mr. Corbyn hasn't really thought anything through properly, he has been elected simply because he is so far from the norm he was an attractive choice simply for that reason.
     
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  18. Supergod00

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    This is exactly the attitude that thankfully means a hard left government will never get in power, that "**** off if you don't agree with me" tone. Corbyn is completely unelectable as a PM, all you've got back is at least 5 more years of Tories. I've voted Labour the last two elections and hate the Tories but I'd vote for them over Corbyn any day.
     
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    Very smart move by Cameron. Get his people to register and vote for Corbyn as Labour leader to guarantee a Tory victory in the next election. Value for money at £3 per vote.

    I'm actually surprised that Cameron was smart enough to work it out.
     
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    IwasanotherwatfordR Well-Known Member

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    The most satisfying result in UK politics since Vince Cable and Ed Balls deservefly lost their seats. Labour shoot themselves in the foot for years. This gives the Tories at least another ten years and sufficient time to try and correct the devastation left to our economy by the Blair and Brown administrations.
     
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