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£500bn of that deficit was the money spent bailing out the banks. Much as the Tories grandstanded the last election with stunts about the deficit and the infamous treasury letter about there being no money left (such notes have been commonplace for generations, especially in the Treasury and MOD) they never explain what they would have done in the same scenario - would they have let them go bust? **** off! And as the Tories, in power and opposition, voted against each and every suggestion about controlling the banks, please don't suggest that the international financial crisis wouldn't have happened on their watch either.

As to the PFI investments into schools and hospitals during the 'boom' years - PFI was a Tory invention of the 90's. i still, at home, have a fabulous article written in Private Eye by the late Paul Foot predicting each and every eventuality that PFI would bring down the line, and it's shameful that Labour used this mechanism to invest into the country. But the principle of investing into schools, hospitals, roads, etc was not wrong, during a surplus, and that narrative should have been challenged during the election. i know a builder from my gym made @ £200k working on PFI jobs in schools and rfurbishing the courts here in York, but even he (a Tory, 'natch) still parrots the Sun/Mail line about Labour supposedly blowing all those billions on operations for transsexuals and housing Somalian familes in Park Lane mansions as being the cause of the international banking collapse.

 

My point about the deficit was that it is fairly obvious that a significant amount of debt would be built up if this wasn't reduced immediately, which it clearly wasn't and so hence my post in response to this not being pointed out. I would not suggest that Labour did the wrong thing by bailing out the banks as I believe that it was the only course of action available. Of course the Tories are going to use it to beat Labour with, just like Labour would if it was the other way round.

I agree with what you say about PFIs as it is crippling the NHS. I wouldn't mind seeing a renegotiation of these.

 

I am entitled to my opinion,maybe you think it is ill informed,but if we are all the same does this make you a bit of a twat and a racist twerp.

But really I am neither, just wumming as bored with no footie,see which TWERP would bite
I think you win DR

 

The single biggest failing of Millibands Labour campaign, was the complete failure to smash the Tories lies about the budget deficit and the mess that they supposedly inherited as a result of it - into a million pieces - by simply banging that challenge right back to them as you have there - would you have done any different?

The economy was the cornerstone of the Tories election pitch and the stats they used were twisted, selective and fully intended to deceive and yet Labour simply stood there and took it on the chin.

 

If anyone else would like to form an opinion on me

I vote Tory

 

Thing that always gets me, and the reason i always vote Tory, is like Tobes says, if the Labour party cannot create a decent argument to smash down the Tory lies then they are not fit to govern. When wheeling and dealing at the level they do,especially in Europe a bit of skulduggery and savvy is the most important thing.

No good having a wet such as ED

Thats why Tony got in, he was a sneaky twat as well

 

A tory with a racist mindset, hardly a shocker that like.....

 

Here's a pic of a milkman doing his rounds just after the London blitz...

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When Britain was a war torn country and got bombed every day, friends and relatives being blown up in their own homes, they didn't run off to other countries to get free handouts. They stayed and fought and carried on with their daily jobs and life, which is why we have what we have today.

 

They lived on an island surrounded by water which contained floating mines, warships and u-boats which made it a tad difficult to run off.

Although they deserve much credit for their resistance to what is portrayed in your photo and the death that came along with the bombs for many.

 

One of the early tragedies of WWII was when a liner full of children from Britain on its way to Canada was torpedoed in the Atlantic. The Royal family had plans to go to Canada too in the event of a Nazi invasion.

 

Hardly the same scenario though is it?

We were being attacked from the air by a military force who'd invaded most of the rest of Europe anyway, so there was nowhere to run.

But more importantly they weren't on the ground slaying civilians and destroying their homes for sport. I wouldn't stick around if ISIL were headed in the direction of my gaff and I had nothing but my air rifle and a ****ing rake to fend them off with.

 

Saw it on Facebook so thought I'd stick it in here to cause a **** storm

 

That's the stark difference in sailing to safety across the Atlantic during ww2 and sailing across the med from north Africa to Europe as the refugees are currently doing.

 

I believe a rapidly drawn caricature of 'The Prophet' would also be of repulsion to them. Not that it did any good to cartoonists of Charlie Hebdo.

 

You could always try wriiting "Mohammed was a *****" in 2ft high letters on the side of your gaff I suppose....

 

Those Syrians that don't want to risk being drone-striked in 'friendly fire' incidents should do that. In fact, new policy - drone-stike any house/building that DOESN'T have that written on it.

 

The 80 teams in this season's Champions League and Europa League have agreed to donate one euro per ticket from their first home games to help the refugee crisis. (Guardian)

 

My aunties and uncles [children at the time] 'ran off' to another country ....................... Wales

 

I think it'd be of more use if every CL footballer had to allow a family of refugees to set up camp in the grounds of their mutli million pound pads

 

When I read G's post that's the first thing I thought of , loads of people evacuated to Welsh Wales during the war, wonder if that's where others from different parts of the country went to?, or did they have their own evacuation haven elsewhere?