I'm not necessarily defending him on this as i do agree ge had his head turned by the celebrity life but it really depends on whether doing a promo was considered her job. I've got to take next Tuesday off to mind my daughter, it happens.
I was just about to say the same thing. I'm sure she had to have time off her work too for the same reasons.
Don't remember the exact details, but I don't think it was her promo. There was something in the news after he left about the relationship with SAF breaking down because he claimed he really needed a couple of days off to watch the kids, and then she just turned up at somebody else's event. Guess it all depends on your perspective on it - SAF did admit in his last book that he probably missed out on some trophies due to being too willing to get rid of players he thought weren't focused enough, or had poor discipline.
Lot of respect for Beckham. You just have to look at the ****e he took after 1998 WC and the year he had after that. Love that attitude. Not that any of this is necessarily relevant to who the next manager should be. The answer to that is I honestly haven't got the foggiest who. I look around at all the managers out there and I can't say I'm impressed by anyone. Carlo Ancelotti would be my standout candidate at the moment. He absolutely suits United. That's about it really.
I wouldn't mind him either. After LVG we need someone who understands the culture at United: winning but attractive football. We need someone with experience. I still do not think that giggs is not experienced enough. He needs to manage another club first. What does Giggs have as a manager over the likes of Bruce and Hughes ?
Another one taking a break from the managerial merry go round. Very decent manager, would have preferred him to van Gaal but he foolishly thought Real wouldn't sack him. Doesn't last long in his jobs, is that what we're after? How does he understand the culture of United though? Yet Giggs, who's been at the club thirty years or so, isn't ready? How do we know, in 18 months time he might be. On Bruce; patently not up to the task. Hughes; proper legend and might be a candidate yet when lvg does go. Depends how he does between now and then with Stoke.
Not giggs (Pep coached several levels at Barcelona before taking charge of the first team, Giggs has 4 games managerial experience). Would have to be Pep. The obvious one and the best fit. Unless we are starting again, rebuilding and starting another transitional period. The vast majority want to see us win the title again. So no cup managers either (ancelotti). Very little choice. Think I would prefer Gary Neville over Giggs as manager too.
Giggs knows the club as a player. I am pretty sure we have had few, if any former players become successful United managers. Being at the club so long Isnt a precursor to becoming a successful manager. I would like to see him take charge of various age ranges first. Ancelotti for me is a cup manager. He doesn't rebuild sides nor plan long term, which is not what United need. Anyway, the manager doesn't need to know the club. Fergie didn't for one. He learned the United way and over the years, the his own style, and the United way became one.
Don't like Pep but he seems to have done ok carrying on with LvGs philosophy at Barca and Munich. Would love Neville to be involved with the coaching and/or management side, his understanding of the game is there for all to see every week.
I'm not a massive fan either and think despite his success he carries some risk. However as you say, he's done very well in continuing what van Gaal started (more so at Bayern than Barcelona tbh). He would also command great respect. Neville could end up the next England manager IMO. Or at least one of the next ones. Isn't he still involved with England?
It's not so much that he understands the culture of the club, but more the case that his style of football best suits the traditional culture of our playing style. Expansive, generally attacking football and tactical use of wide players. On the point of lasting long in his job, he should have been given more time at Chelsea and Real. Obviously two moronic clubs that shot themselves in the foot there. At Milan he was there for 8 years. I also feel that the idea of another repeat of Fergie-esque long reign is not necessarily realistic in the modern era. If we can have 5 years+ out of a manager which brings success consistently then we've done well. Carlo will be 58 by the time LVG leaves and he may ry well fancy 5 years+ at a massive club like United at that point in his career. BTW I'm not ruling out Giggs, he may very well be ready in 18 months.
So why is his career super important, but when she has a work thing like a promo, its going "off on some jolly" ? Besides you'd think they earn enough between them to hire a frickin babysitter or a nanny.
I can't remember the details all that well (and don't care all that much!) but like I said in the following post, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a work thing for her. It wasn't like she was promoting her own stuff, she just turned up and was pictured at someone else's event.
Yeah doesn't feel right calling whatever she has a "career", other than fashion ****, she hasn't really done anything of note since the Spice Girls. Just blows my mind that he needed time off from football to look after the kids. If it were me, I would leave the kids with my parents/their grandparents. If I am a multi Millionaire, my parents wouldn't be working. They could have the kids whilst me and the missus are working.
They might not be working but they could be doing something. Like I mentioned earlier, sometimes you have to look after your own kids. Next week I have to take the day off as my daughter is only at school in the mornings. She (wifey) is a teacher and is working and her parents are away. We don't employ randoms to mind our kids so I'm biting the bullet and having a day off, it has to happen very rarely but on this occasion it does. **** knows what Beckham's wife was up to that day but maybe he thought as she was 'working' he had a duty to mind his kids.
Pretty sure one of the kids was ill, possibly to the point at which a good parent wouldn't want anyone other than themselves to look after them. Not saying her career was worth less than his, my point was that what she was off doing wasn't, IIRC, anything career related other than extremely tangentially. It would be like if he was injured and told her she couldn't go record a song or hold a concert as she had to look after the kids whilst he went to watch Utd play. No need, and not something that anyone would do unless they were starting to neglect their career in favour of pandering to the other half.
This has to be one of the most stupid ideas that ive ever heard! When Giggs or Beckham or any other past player of ours goes and proves themselves by managing at a lower level and working there way up, then and only then should they be considered. To give the job to a first time manager, just because he was a great player is stupid. Managing and playing are at complete different ends of the spectrum
Giggs as manager with Butt as his number 2 with Scholes, Phil Neville and Rene Mulestein (or whatever his name is as the coaches) with GN as a part time advisor/analyst. Who wouldn't want to play football under that set up?
In case you hadn't noticed, Giggs Is the bloke sitting on the bench next to van Gaal. Has been for the last season, will be for the rest of this and next season. He's very dark, usually has a beard. That bloke.
