Welcome to refugees

Are you for real?
Here is just a minute fraction of where money goes...
130m for a buckingham palace paint job and queeny this year
500m to refurbish naval base
100billion for new nukes
100 billion to bankers in bonuses including state owned RBS since 2008
100 billion in cuts to services since 2008


How much is bombing Syria costing? So, you are spending millions to bomb but cry about far less money for the refugees the bombing creates. ?


Engage your brain mate

 

On the 'plus' side, the drone strikes appear to be that inacurrate and widespread that they're often killing hundreds of would-be refugees along with the targeted Isis fighters.

 

Yet the fact that there is poverty there never bothered you until now? OK go and bullshit and say it did.

Just plonking a bunch of reguees or assylum seekers in a spot doesn't work, they need to be integrated. That's what happens here in FInland, there is an integration process that involves education, language and work experience. it works. Finland is not even remotely as economically wealthy as the UK yet everyone gets free universal healthcare and education. Within a year of arriving an immigrant is fully able to take part in the work force or education, you are not allowed get the dole for just sitting on your arse here

Funny how all of this sentiment towards domestic predicaments appears when "immigrants" which is a PC label for people you just don't like because of inherent jingoism in academia and media, when they show up.

 

What is the nett imigration to Finland
Don't see many stories on your borders being raided each night,so easy to deal with a handful

 

I actually mentioned the cost of the military action so use your eyes mate

 

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#racism

 

Theres a chronic shortage of decent living accommodation in this country for those needing to rent a home and unless the refugees are brewstered and buy a property they'll end up living in b+b's or hotels at the expense of local councils/authorities, seeing as the government say the economy is strong again they should consider CPO's on many the many inner city areas where the could build prefabs to temporarily accommodate the influx of refugees until its safe to return to their homelands.
Prefabs are cheaper to build than houses so theres no excuse not to give it a go and theres acres of land sitting idle and overgrown with weeds in many UK cities, if such a scheme went ahead it would create more work and benefit not only refugees but also the unemployed.

 

I love the "we have problems here" argument.

Lets translate that "we have problems here, let them die".

Doesn't seem such a credible argument then.

 

People needs some perspective on this issue I think.

We're talking about 20,000 people over a 5 year period here.

We had a net migration of circa 260,000 last year. So across a 5 year span the total number of proposed refugees is less than 1.5% of the total number of imigrants we'll have arriving on these shores anyway.

I'd wager we've had more than 20,000 bunk in via Calais in the last 12 months, let alone 5 years...........

 

I never voted to be part of the EU, in fact I am all for coming out of the EU. Like Scottish independance, give the people a chance to decide....with a little luck we won't let the chance to escape slip away.

 

There was a public referendum whether to stay in the EU [EEC/Common Market at the time if memory serves] - I know because I cast my vote. Maybe we need to revisit that and have another referendum - yay or nay to staying in it

 

Your translation is hardly credible either to be fair. I oppose accepting a huge influx of people, but that doesn't mean I oppose offering financial assistance and other means of support to those counties closer to the source of the problem.

 

Yes I think this is a view that is probably very common place but not being given much credence in the whole debate. It all seems to be very black and white in terms of "let them all in" or "let them all die" - I doubt many subscribe to either of those more absolute views.

That said, I do agree with BBF about it being amusing that there are so many people who now suddenly want to focus on the problems we have here when previously they couldnlt give a monkey's toss, a fish's tit or a serpent's arsehole about what was happening on their own doorstep.

 

When was that? 1975!! I wasn't able to vote then :-(

At least with political parties/governments we get a chance to change every five years. There are generations who never had a say and these are the ones that now have the power to change.

Regarding refugees, i would happily take people in danger into our protection.

 

Agreed my comment was very much aimed at a minority who think think that way.

 

Yes you're right, 1975. Had to google to find the date

With regard to refugees, I was always taught to treat others the way you'd like to be treated yourself so supporting people when they need it the most seems the right and good thing to do.

 

i had to google and then edit my original post hence the question after when was it?

Membership has increased from 9 to 26(I think) from the last vote, surely you don't enter a union and then leave it 43 years before you let the population decide if its what they still want!

 

Agreed, supporting people when they need it most is the right thing to do, but that doesn't necessarily mean that a significant percentage of the Syrian population has to relocate to Europe. I am concerned by the lack of security vetting going on across the rest of Europe and so I think that we are doing the right thing by taking a more considered approach by taking in the most vulnerable from camps close to Syria.

 

It's exactly the right thing to do.

Allowing those who are intent on weaving their way across Europe to enter without adequate checks on their backgrounds and validity as a genuine refugee is a non starter.

 

Seeing as we're on a football forum - you could compare EEC with FIFA - unions that started out promising lots of benefits arguably losing their way and turning into bureaucratic monsters while lining the pockets of those at the top!