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  1. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    83% of Bristolians will not accept a refugee in their own home and rightly so.

    I am also very very disappointed with DC over this. I'm sure there will be a backlash.

    These are middle eastern people and the best place for them is the middle east. Out of our way.
     
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  2. colognehornet

    colognehornet Well-Known Member

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    If the best place for middle eastern people is in the middle east then maybe we can reverse that and say that the best place for the English would be in England instead of trotting around the globe as second self declared World policeman after America, helping to destabilize one region after another, and then washing its hands of all responsibility afterwards.
     
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  3. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    I actually agree, but in recent times if that a-hole of a PM Tony Blair hadn't been so starstruck by George W Bush we would never have got involved with Iraq for starters.
    In history, I think you'll also find the Dutch, Germans, French, Russians and Portugese have done their share of brutal colonising too.
     
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    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    'the likes of Me, Rod, Redprintt and Angelic would have all grown up with this left wing bias too'

    You're absolutely spot on for me Banksy, I was red as red.
    Then, unless you're the likes of a Teacher (who only ever speak to children), Public Sector or in the Arts you soon grow up.
    Some will all ways be a happy adolescent, ignorance is bliss.
     
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  5. EnderMB

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    A lot of you seem to not realise that general immigration and seeking asylum are two different things.

    With that being said, a golden opportunity for the EU was missed. I'm shocked that Cameron and co didn't say "we'll take in as many as we can, and will personally go get them and bring them to the UK using our armed forces and navy, on the condition that the EU backs controlled migration via a quota system".

    That way, everyone is happy. Those seeking asylum can come here in their thousands and won't have to basically walk across the continent to find somewhere to live, but those that are purely coming for work need to apply for a visa, and can be let in when there is both room and work available.
     
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  6. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Those seeking asylum should seek it closer to where the originate from not a world away culturally and ethnically.

    There are plenty of relatively friendly nations south of Europe which are damned sight closer to Syria that the United Kingdom. The UAE is the obvious choice. They have plenty of room, and weather more suited to Syrians, Iraqi's, Afghans or any other ponce of a nation who want a free meal ticket.
     
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    exactly not one person has said why they won't go to their neighbors country,not one.
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Because the whole world knows that we are an easy touch.
    A lot of the migrants heading to Germany will probably end up here once they've obtained their German passport and freedom of movement is allowed.
     
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  9. Mind the gap!

    Mind the gap! Well-Known Member

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    Source please

    These countries also have very low populations and so taking millions of refugees in (compared to the much smaller number in Europe) unviable. The load must be stretched out over many nations to create a long term solution for these refugees!
     
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    Mind the gap! Well-Known Member

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    'These countries also have very low populations and so' -
    They will have plenty of room.
    These countries are Muslim - ideal, and they have oil/wealth beyond belief.
     
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  12. EnderMB

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    It's on the BBC website at the moment. I'll find a link if I find the time.

    Basically, most of them have their own problems, and while many of the individuals with all the money over there have chucked a fair amount of their money at the problem, ultimately these people need housing instead of blankets. The EU can do this thing fairly easily, but a lot of these countries have strict visa laws, and they can't just waive them for this case.

    Ultimately, the refugees aren't stupid. They'll go to the most prosperous nations, and nations that will give them opportunities. That means they'll go to Sweden, Austria, Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands, and the UK. You'll see very few of them heading over to Greece.
     
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  13. RedorDead

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    Don't ask me for a source, when you put up that stupid anti Murdoch statement but used a collage of paper clippings to remonstrate your theory but used a paper that is not his as an example.

    And in the example above, you've kicked yourself in the bollocks yet again by stating the ****ing obvious that THEY have the room to accommodate.

    We've enough problems trying to sort out our own homeless situation without adding to it.

    If there is genuinely enough room, enough jobs and enough infastructure in this country so everyone can live their life's, then yes take them in. But the sad fact is that there isn't the country will be overloaded and in generations time too full.
     
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    I see YTFC have asked for donations for the Calais migrants, think they've called it Calaid.
    They don't mind other teams shirts so over to you MTG.
    Probably no use for Rickster - 'Lost in France' but you never know.

    I'd send our Marines to send the skiving bas***ds back where they belong.
     
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  15. Red Robin

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    Where the petition to send em back where they came from.
     
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  16. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Indeed

    Most of us on here, and I reckon the majority of the population would sign that in a heartbeat, and also one to rid ourselves of those already here.
     
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    It might be good to remind ourselves of why people become refugees in the first place. I am sure that in the future we will see the emergence of environmental refugees ie. those leaving parts of the World which have become unliveable due to global warming, but at the moment they are fleeing civil war, oppressive governments etc. in other words abuse of weaponry - without export of weapons many of these problems would not arise in the first place. Listed below are the 10 biggest weapon exporters in the World - countries which are growing rich based upon other people's misery. Maybe they are the 'source' of the problem.
    1. USA 31%
    2. Russia 27%
    3. China 5%
    4. Germany 5%
    5. France 5%
    6. UK 4%
    7. Spain 3%
    8. Italy 3%
    9. Ukraine 3%
    10. Israel 2%
     
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  18. Mind the gap!

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    Yep let's send back millions of innocent people into a wartorn country with a shortage of supplies in the middle of a brutal civil war.
     
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    These people are human beings who have not influenced what's happened in their country.

    I'm not left wing - I'm not a soft touch - just think we should be able to show a bit of compassion for the situation many refugees find themselves in.

    Lets try to keep refugees separate from economic migrants - they are totally different.

    These people are victims of an abhorrent ideology
     
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