Welcome to refugees

I think Sturgeon has said she would welcome a family into her home. Show the woman a bandwagon and she's on it faster than Billy Cotton, that's one for the old folks. Younger forum members will have to Google it!

 

It's actually why the tory solution (way too late) is better than the vote hungry German one. We'll accept x amount of refugees but from close to source. That takes the turks mafia out of it and saves them getting on the boats in the first place.

But...want to stop it...threaten to bomb turkey and the Saudis. ..seriously the Saudis have been behind it all...and yet we suck their dick. Makes you almost believe BBF

 

Just to clarify, as it is now generally accepted as a 'refugee' situation, does that not mean that the said refugees will return 'home' if/when their home is made safe?

 

How these refugees accepted Hungarian hospitality, Sorry, German!

 

Uganda?

 

The cynicism around is just astounding.

We accept that these people are from war torn countries fleeing death and destruction. They fear for their family's safety. Their homes have been destroyed. They have to leave. We don't dispute these facts.

Yet, when they seek to get into the most suitable country for them (language, relatives, economical survival from a large flourishing country, acceptance by the people in these countries) we condemn them. Didn't refugees choose their countries when fleeing persecution in the 2nd world war?

Do refugees need to accept the first country they come across rather than to a country that is prepared to accept them? By all accounts Hungary do not seem very willing to accept them. Their PM has already said that he us concerned that his people could be a minority in their own country and that the fact that the refugees were Muslim was a concern.

Of course there needs to be a coordinated response from Europe. And we should all accept that an open border policy is not sustainable in the long term but when faced with an urgent humanitarian crisis we have to act in a humane compassionate way to relieve that immediate crisis and then work out the longer term solution later.

The German government recognised that. It will face hard decisions later about accepting the numbers that they can assimilate. But for the time being they have the full support of the people in relieving the crisis in Hungary.

 

This guy certainly is

 

Many millions have, because they want to return home as soon as it's safe. The ones who want to travel half the globe do it for financial reasons with no intention of returning.

 

Travelling from Syria to Germany or Austria is hardly half the globe.

Is there anything wrong in not wishing to suffer in refugee camps in Jordan, Iraq and build a new life in Europe for your children?

Tell me that if you were faced with the choice of going to a refugee camp or relocating to a country where you think your children may thrive, you would choose the first option.

 

A fair bit further than they need to go to be safe though.

 

The German govt has got it wrong by being too quick to be right. (And it was the German govt that asked for the borders to be closed on the Austrian Italy border)

Yes deal with refugees already here but hey! The eastern EU countries suddenly don't like it when it's incoming rather than outgoing? Welcome to the eu.

Take the refugees from source and you kill the mafia snake. Us being out of the German sorry eu quotas let's us do that.

Again...let's see how many of these mouthy countries keep the refugees in 3 years time

 

The naivety around is even more astounding....

 

Bibi Nutandyahu says no more thanks, I'll build an 18 mile fence instead.

Didn't Israel begin by sending refugees there <whislte>

It's a bit like Aussie PM Tony Abbott saying "I am religiously against immigration".. Tony was born in London

 

Is this the beginning of "THIRD WORLD WAR". Governments are becoming too much unstable everywhere?.

 

Turkey's gov is far worse than its mafia or they are one and the same.
Who do you think carried out those Chemical attacks in Syria, I'll give you a clue, not the Turk mafia

 

Why they are doing it is irrelevant. The Finn PM was already a millionaire before politics, he was already PM, just won elections this year, no need for vote harvesting at all, this will be forgotten in 4 years. Gave up what we here would deem a small mansion for fugees.

Whatever the reasoning the fact is there is a big ass house for people that need somewhere to live, bottom line n all that.

I do dislike the cynicism by some who, even if they won't admit it, never donated a penny to charity in their lives and are probably self absorbed cnuts.

The whole "benefits thing" is nuts, and that image Diago posted, pure bollocks, you'd want to see how these people get treated all throughout Europe, only when you get to Nordic Scandanavian or UK or Germany do you get treated like you are actually human.

When you are leaving Syria with all your possessions in a bag and set foot onto a ****ty raft or boat with your family having to trust some peoper scumbags and hope they don't just drown you all, yeah I think thoughts of benefits in England is the last thing on yor mind.

But how would a self absorbed muppet reading the daily mail see it that way?

 

The areas market "benefits" area also the first places they arrive to that treat them like they are human beings.

The rest of treat them like **** for one reason or another, Christain State, no money, racism, xenophobia or idiots on here who talk of benefits

SO.. you'll give 80 billion to bankers for bonuses but a mere fraction of that to support refugees.. gets the blood boiling.


****wits

 

People escaping for their lives on rafts aren't who we're talking about here.

We're talking about people who have crossed a land border and are now attempting to choose their destination of choice, which is not the behaviour of refugees, it's the behaviour of opportunist economic migrants. Note how many of them are single young men. Genuine refugees will take whatever shelter and assistance is on offer from any nation, many of these people are trying to dictate where they end up for economic reasons. Anyone who can't see that is a ****ing idiot.

 

My youngest got back recently from 3.5 weeks around Europe. She was on a train from Stuttgart. Armed coppers came on the train before it departed, checking passports, visas etc. They didn't look at hers, or her friends, but chucked a black family off the train. Apparently, there was nothing wrong with their documents.

 

That's fair enough with the gougers, though Diego's map is dealing with the ****s excaping war.

The issue is not current immigration, it's the policies of the past when the economy was good becoming a problem when there is no money.
Ireland similarly literally just opened its borders to the guts of a million people, who after 2008 were suddenly not welcome any more

The immigrants I see here in Finland work the ****tiest jobs or two of them. Like delivering mail on a night shift in winter for buttons ect. Many of them have degrees.
Some of the hardest workers I have ever met were immigrants.

These one size fits all labels are less than useless. Yes there are gougers, yes more numbers stress services, but no one is asking why those services are already stretched and it's not because of immigration.

When left with a choice between poor services and social equality or 100bn for new nukes.

I fail to see the difference between an English gouger and a Syrian one. There are more native gougers than immigrant ones. I mean for ****s sake, many of these are not allowed even work as part of their deal to be allowed stay!