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Grand Prix thread Italian Grand Prix 2015

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by cosicave, Sep 2, 2015.

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blow the bloody doors

Poll closed Sep 4, 2015.
  1. Hamilton

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  2. Rosberg

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  3. Vettel

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  4. Raikkonen

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  5. bottas

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  6. massa

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  7. grosjean

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  8. ricciardo

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  9. perez

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  10. other.

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  1. taeleon

    taeleon Well-Known Member

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    I'd say Bottas's mixed tyres is the same in terms of safety though. They are completely different tyre grips just like if you take your car in for an MOT with one of your treads the wrong way it will fail. I get that it's a different kind of regulation blah blah but that's my point exactly one safety issue is a DSQ and another is not.
     
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  2. BrightLampShade

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    6 minutes till a decision apparently.

    I bet it's some ridiculous decision.
     
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  3. Piebacca

    Piebacca Well-Known Member

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    26s time penalty.<laugh>
     
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  4. EternalMSC

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    Rosberg has to dye his hair black.
    Toto Wolff has to run the length of the track.
    Paddy Lowe has to sing the Italian national anthem.
     
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  5. Smithers

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    All joking apart that's the issue, a 25 sec penalty makes no difference.
     
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  6. BrightLampShade

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    I'm still expecting them to bottle it and give a pointless 25s penalty.

    If he gets DSQ then others are in trouble for letting an 'unsafe' car race.
    If they're soft then they'll get layed into for being soft.
     
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  7. Piebacca

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    Not to be rude, but if you think that a 0.3psi underinflation gained him more than 25s, you have issues.
     
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  8. Number 1 Jasper

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    Agree .
     
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  9. di Fredsta!

    di Fredsta! Well-Known Member

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    Same could be said about Vettel in qualifying in Abu Dhabi 2012, Hamilton Spain 2012, Ricciardo Australia 2014.
    They broke the regulations, they should be disqualified.
     
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  10. taeleon

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    I'm torn. I'm a Lewis fan so want them to bottle it but breaking the rules on a safety issue should be a DSQ based on the precedents it could set if they don't DSQ Merc. Though I think other safety issues should be taken just as serious.
     
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    hold on, if i read this right, ONE tyre was not the correct pressure? how is that an advantage?
     
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  12. BrightLampShade

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    A DSQ is a massive spot of luck for Rosberg, who saw that coming! Hamilton has put needless mileage on his PU whilst apparently Rosbergs binned PU is fine.

    How quickly tables can turn!.
     
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  13. Smithers

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    It's irrelevant, a rule is a rule - what if every car does it next race? My issue is with teams not complying which gain an advantage (however minimal) or potentially endanger the driver.

    The same argument could be argued if your wing is 1mm to wide, or your exhaust too short - regardless of the non quantifiable gain it doesn't comply.
     
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  14. EternalMSC

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    One tyre will become two, then two will become 3. Things should be stamped out asap.
     
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    ....because you offset the tyres pressures depending on the circuit so they balance in wear and pressure over the stint. The tyres which take the maximum load will increase in pressure and hence wear quicker, so you preserve the life and balance the wear with differing pressure so they come in equal.
     
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    How does this fit with Paddy Lowe saying the tyre pressures were set with the supervision of a Pirelli engineer?
     
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  17. BrightLampShade

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  18. taeleon

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    Toto just confirmed there is no penalty. They proved the pressure was correct when the tyres went on the car.
     
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  19. di Fredsta!

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    What a joke. What an absolute joke. I really hope every other team takes the piss from now on, if Mercedes can get away with it, why can't everyone else?
     
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  20. Number 1 Jasper

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    Storm in a tea cup .
     
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