Mafia XI - An Unknown Evil -GAMEOVER Town/Anarchist Victory!

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Gerrez said:
Yep, both nights AFC and I have been under threat. Both nights we have survived. Both nights we have seen bad guys die when AFC (both times) survived the lynch. We are known innocents to the Medium. Yet somehow, AFC and I remain the number one and two targets [HASHTAG]#logic[/HASHTAG] <laugh>

All I can say is, look at who is targeting us! Annoyingly, two of them have since died and been proven innocent (Biscan and Tobes) which obviously doesn't look good for us (tbf, what as in this game) but there are others too.

[HASHTAG]#shred[/HASHTAG]
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I think it would help all of us just as much to look at who is defending you. That was the most significant development last night and was a complete change in the dynamic of the game. There are obvious reasons to go after you but not so many obvious reasons to defend you - unless something is known or has been investigated. It was a block of people that moved over significantly onto ACS.

You say you know who the medium is and that he knows you. If you are telling the truth then that does indeed give a significant voting block to protect you. If an investigator also knows then that becomes more significant and probably outnumbers any one team.

I don't know who the medium is, but Mikey gave us a clue, intentional or otherwise, of who another town member might be now that we know there is a team within the town team. That makes 5. Each other townie then knows individually of their own innocence. That makes 6.There will be others too who have been investigated. If any of them came back as town that adds another but is harder to communicate without giving away their role.
 
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Less Hope Than Neville said:
I think it would help all of us just as much to look at who is defending you. That was the most significant development last night and was a complete change in the dynamic of the game. There are obvious reasons to go after you but not so many obvious reasons to defend you - unless something is known or has been investigated. It was a block of people that moved over significantly onto ACS.

You say you know who the medium is and that he knows you. If you are telling the truth then that does indeed give a significant voting block to protect you. If an investigator also knows then that becomes more significant and probably outnumbers any one team.

I don't know who the medium is, but Mikey gave us a clue, intentional or otherwise, of who another town member might be now that we know there is a team within the town team. That makes 5. Each other townie then knows individually of their own innocence. That makes 6.There will be others too who have been investigated. If any of them came back as town that adds another but is harder to communicate without giving away.
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I don't think many are defending us, I think the way we are playing it is bloody obvious we're not evil. Why be so obvious if we were and why would an evil be forced to say obvious surfing lingo?

I don't trust Mikey purely because of Biscan's (a now known innocent) dying comments. Saying that, there aren't many I do trust but at least I have two (AFC and the Medium) I can trust 100%.

I'm hoping the Medium knows others too to make the team bigger but obviously he can't say. There are thirteen still alive so we'd need to 100% know seven innocents before considering a reveal. There may not even be that many innocents for all we know!

PS...annoyingly, Biscan was trusting me (as much as he could) at the end of day one (because he knows how I play) but he was either swayed by bad guys or more likely Tobes, his scientist team mate who targets me immediately in every game.

[HASHTAG]#totallyawesome[/HASHTAG]
 
Gerrez said:
I don't trust Mikey purely because of Biscan's (a now known innocent) dying comments. Saying that, there aren't many I do trust but at least I have two (AFC and the Medium) I can trust 100%.

I'm hoping the Medium knows others too to make the team bigger but obviously he can't say. There are thirteen still alive so we'd need to 100% know seven innocents before considering a reveal. There may not even be that many innocents for all we know!

PS...annoyingly, Biscan was trusting me (as much as he could) at the end of day one (because he knows how I play) but he was either swayed by bad guys or more likely Tobes, his scientist team mate who targets me immediately in every game.

[HASHTAG]#totallyawesome[/HASHTAG]
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You don't need to trust Mikey to trust his info. Even if it was used as a distraction technique he basically revealed the team he mentioned. That should still give you another known innocent.
 
Less Hope Than Neville said:
You don't need to trust Mikey to trust his info. Even if it was used as a distraction technique he basically revealed the team he mentioned. That should still give you another known innocent.
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I edited slightly dude.

Will look into what you've said here <ok>


Any way you can convince me your innocent?
 
Oh, and if none of you bro's haven't noticed, we've got another set of four words for day three so we now have twelve words <laugh>
 
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Well, far out dudes. I'm a wipe-out so leaving you bodacious shobie dudes with the gnarly thoughts ;)
 
Gerrez said:
Oh, and if none of you bro's haven't noticed, we've got another set of four words for day three so we now have twelve words <laugh>
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What's the point? You've both made 3 posts without words already, what difference does more posts without words make?
 
Gerrez said:
I don't think many are defending us, I think the way we are playing it is bloody obvious we're not evil. Why be so obvious if we were and why would an evil be forced to say obvious surfing lingo?

I don't trust Mikey purely because of Biscan's (a now known innocent) dying comments. Saying that, there aren't many I do trust but at least I have two (AFC and the Medium) I can trust 100%.

I'm hoping the Medium knows others too to make the team bigger but obviously he can't say. There are thirteen still alive so we'd need to 100% know seven innocents before considering a reveal. There may not even be that many innocents for all we know!

PS...annoyingly, Biscan was trusting me (as much as he could) at the end of day one (because he knows how I play) but he was either swayed by bad guys or more likely Tobes, his scientist team mate who targets me immediately in every game.

[HASHTAG]#totallyawesome[/HASHTAG]
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As far as being obviously innocent - whether it was to you or not - it wasn't to others. When the game was planned those words may not have been intended to have been as obvious as they became. I am still worried about you seeming to have been targeted by a good killer and defended by a bad bodyguard. However, those could both be actions of people following the thread rather than acting on info.

I said yesterday my biggest concern was knowing you would have been investigated and nobody seeming to defend you. That now seems to have happened in a way that is consistent with investigation. Not 100% but a big factor in my mind. I also think at this stage that another day discussing 'dude' speak would be detrimental to us. For that reason I think an investigation showing you were evil would have been revealed once the vote started to go away from AFC's lynching.
 
astroturfnaut said:
What's the point? You've both made 3 posts without words already, what difference does more posts without words make?
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I haven't. Only two on both days. AFC had two on day one and three on day two but I didn't report the third, I didn't need to. We've both forgotten the side game and are playing 100% [HASHTAG]#teamtown[/HASHTAG].

[HASHTAG]#totallyawesome[/HASHTAG]
 
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Gerrez said:
I haven't. Only two on both days. AFC had two on day one and three on day two but I didn't report the third, I didn't need to. We've both forgotten the side game and are playing 100% [HASHTAG]#teamtown[/HASHTAG].

[HASHTAG]#totallyawesome[/HASHTAG]
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So it's reset each day?

In that case you should keep using them in case the other one gets recruited [HASHTAG]#easykill[/HASHTAG]
 
Less Hope Than Neville said:
As far as being obviously innocent - whether it was to you or not - it wasn't to others. When the game was planned those words may not have been intended to have been as obvious as they became. I am still worried about you seeming to have been targeted by a good killer and defended by a bad bodyguard. However, those could both be actions of people following the thread rather than acting on info.

I said yesterday my biggest concern was knowing you would have been investigated and nobody seeming to defend you. That now seems to have happened in a way that is consistent with investigation. Not 100% but a big factor in my mind. I also think at this stage that another day discussing 'dude' speak would be detrimental to us. For that reason I think an investigation showing you were evil would have been revealed once the vote started to go away from AFC's lynching.
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It was obvious though. Anyone that's played the game with us before (majority of people in this game) knew we were being out of character. interesting that you've mention Mikey to me but he was one of the few that said exactly this!

Exactly. The only way an investigation isn't revealed is if its not of much use. If the investigation said we were evil, surely someone would have said?

[HASHTAG]#cawabunga[/HASHTAG]
 
Gerrez said:
I edited slightly dude.

Will look into what you've said here <ok>


Any way you can convince me your innocent?
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I very much doubt it - at this stage.

I am playing my usual game of trying to be analytical and work things out logically. I'm not always right but i think I'm fairly consistent. I was the first to suggest that ACS should be the second name on the list (I think) in case the AFC suicide thing was real. I also said my main targets for suspicion (apart from you and AFC - can't change that bit) were ACS and Lucaas. Both of them were guilty.
 
astroturfnaut said:
So it's reset each day?

In that case you should keep using them in case the other one gets recruited [HASHTAG]#easykill[/HASHTAG]
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The count is reset each day yes. We get new words each day too but we're also allowed to use the previous words still so we now have twelve words bro.
 
This nice but everyone a tally interested in solving this should get back to the basics again.

Milks given us lots of info. Ignore the confusion town... focus on the facts.

Start eliminating the roles you now know and start figureing out what's out there.

This is now day 3. Think hard 2 days left before evil rises.

I will be doing thing. Again park the bs and look at the facts.
 
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Less Hope Than Neville said:
I very much doubt it - at this stage.

I am playing my usual game of trying to be analytical and work things out logically. I'm not always right but i think I'm fairly consistent. I was the first to suggest that ACS should be the second name on the list (I think) in case the AFC suicide thing was real. I also said my main targets for suspicion (apart from you and AFC - can't change that bit) were ACS and Lucaas. Both of them were guilty.
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Well bro, the good news there is ACS and Lucaaas were on different evil teams so possibly eliminates you being on a different evil team to them <ok>
 
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