Mafia XI - An Unknown Evil -GAMEOVER Town/Anarchist Victory!

Again dude, try reading

 

So both town, but one needs to die for us the town to win?

 

I've read all of it, and it makes zero sense, you stated yesterday that either of you dying would be catastrophic for the town?

Why?

 

Gerrez why did you claim afc was evil if you wanted him to stay alive? By doing that, if we'd have lynxhed him and he was innocent, then you know we'd have had to lynch you right after so we'd be 2 townies down (if you are both townies).

Youre re stories just don't seem to make any sense (I know milk wants confision) but still need to have some sort of logic to the roles

 

FFS in a mind **** game where people don't know very much, you could at least try to be more original and creative for a change instead continually spouting our names in every mafia game.

You were evil, were killed, rose from the dead and now wants to help the good guys? Bollox.

 

Sounds like Mafia talk to me

 

Dude (really ****ing fed up with these words btw )

No. For either AFC or me to win, the other needs to be dead and town needs to win the game. Me or AFC dying or living doesn't effect the town other than town numbers.

No we didn't. We said it wouldn't be good for town which it wouldn't town would be two members down!

 

Morning Derek.

 

Seriously dude, read what I put

I was a dead man walking so decided to have some fun and take AFC down with me (wtf would I want him to win our side game? ). I couldn't retract what I'd said once it was looking like I'd survive because you'd have all jumped on me. Decided to wait until this morning so there was plenty of time for people to get over it

Focusing on me and AFC isn't going to win this game. The medium can confirm there are two innocent townie surfers once revealed (don't reveal yourself yet).

 

So am I

 

So in other words your actions are selfish in order to make yourself win. Yesterday was a detriment to the town team because we near enough wasted a day arguing about you both when you bothy could have said were both town, but we only win if the other is dead and only if we kill them by reporting posts that don't have the words in etc.

What happens if we lynch one of you, does that not count as a win for you? Just doesn't add up to me...

 

ok guys please bear with me.... This is just my "summary" from the facts as i see them..

and yes IBWT.. your award for most long winded is deserved on me so I will not go victimising you as a result even though i said i would when i run the next game

 

post 672: the results in full

http://www.not606.com/threads/mafia-xi-an-unknown-evil-game-started.309818/page-34#post-8324446


“Night falls on the sleepy hotel. The town gather around the corpse of Dêrêk Asâmöâh in the lobby of the Brânza mort and pass a vote.

Outside the flood waters rise up the hill getting closer to the hotel. There is no chance of exiting this place of evil anytime soon.

The rotting corpse appears to smile as the judgement is passed. The town has selected a tie; however due to the rules of the game:


NO LYNCH, OWN GOAL's younger cousin get's lynched... or not lynched as the cards may fall...


Albert's Chip Shop is walking back to his room when he hears a noise behind him- he turns around to see a HOLY GOLDEN ARROW come shooting through the air impaling him through the skull. His head explodes... and he drops his ID Card on the ground.


He is evil... very evil... he is the SHAMAN OF BAPHOMET!


In another part of the hotel Judean People's Front is getting ready for bed when there is a knock on the door. He opens the door and is shot with a pistol three times through the heart. People come rushing in and discover in his affects a note titled "PLEASE READ IF I AM KILLED"


The Note says "Dear Fellow Brothers in the Occult Brotherhood of the Skull, I am your high priest. Should I be killed, the assassin will be given the responsibility of assembling the team. Please assemble the team for me."



During the commotion Lucaaas is getting ready for a cold bubble bath when his door is busted open in walks a masked assassin who tries to kill him. Fortunately for Lucaaas a body guard is able to knock him out of the bullets path. The assassin fails.

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Post 662: The final vote: 8:56pm posted


http://www.not606.com/threads/mafia-xi-an-unknown-evil-game-started.309818/page-34#post-8324384

BWT 1 Magic

No Lynch 5 Tennis, Gerrez, Mikey, Valley, MITO

GERREZ 2 Obi, Tobes

RHC 1 Astro

OBI 2 Afc , JPF

AFC 5 Lucaaas, Style, ACS, IBWT, Neville



Post 654: milk says table is wrong at 8:53:

http://www.not606.com/threads/mafia-xi-an-unknown-evil-game-started.309818/page-33#post-8324366


Post 643: table at 8:46pm


http://www.not606.com/threads/mafia-xi-an-unknown-evil-game-started.309818/page-33#post-8324311

IBWT1 Magic
No Lynch 5Tennis, Gerrez, Mikey, Valley, MITO
GERREZ2 Obi, Tobes
RHC1 Astro
OBI2 AFC, JPF
AFC 5Lucaaas, Style, ACS, IBWT, AFC


Not Voted 2 RHC, bodanki

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#Post 681: milk clarifies what occurred with ACS.


http://www.not606.com/threads/mafia-xi-an-unknown-evil-game-started.309818/page-35#post-8324517


Albert's Chip Shop did die but due to a rule in place as the first killed he was resurrected into someone's team.

 

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Lets look at these facts first.


1. The vote:


Clearly you will see at 8:46pm I had changed to no lynch and it was VERY clear to me AFC was sitting there having the swing vote. I’d encourage anyone to read back to see this. I thought him and gerrez has something going on and AFC was playing some game.

This did not in fact change until milk said he’d buggered it up. Neville in fact was the one on AFC not himself.

I had made one change and said this right after night


http://www.not606.com/threads/mafia-xi-an-unknown-evil-game-started.309818/page-34#post-8324416


I was thinking at that time AFC was up to all sorts. I am in fact only now seeing that this was not the case as I read back.

HOWEVER AFc was sat there at 9pm with his vote on Obi. All he needed do was switch to No lynch.


This has to trigger the next question.


DID AFC KNOW HE COULD NOT BE LYNCHED??

 

2. The night results:


Starting at the beginning here:


NO LYNCH:

“The rotting corpse appears to smile as the judgement is passed. The town has selected a tie; however due to the rules of the game: NO LYNCH, OWN GOAL's younger cousin get's lynched... or not lynched as the cards may fall...”


Due to the rules? This is not at all clear. The question in part 1 now comes back up. Did the rules say this was a coin flip.. or that in the event of a no lynch being in tie that AFC gets off or is AFC immune to lynch.


AFC’s reaction here is key. I am not sold on any one of these possibilities. One person does know though. The Medium. We will have to watch this space.

 

ACS:


“Albert's Chip Shop is walking back to his room when he hears a noise behind him- he turns around to see a HOLY GOLDEN ARROW come shooting through the air impaling him through the skull. His head explodes... and he drops his ID Card on the ground. He is evil... very evil... he is the SHAMAN OF BAPHOMET!”


What do we see here?


First the world holy. This suggests a good guy killed ACS.

Second point will be in contrast to how JPF died. I read from the description of the evidence left behind and the name of the role “shaman of Baphomet” this is very different to the role of JPF. This suggest a new question:


Was ACS working ALONE or was he in a team? I think there is a possibility here that ACS was a LONE AGENT. Lets keep an open mind but this hints that there could have been evil characters working along in the game

 

NOW JPF:

“In another part of the hotel Judean People's Front is getting ready for bed when there is a knock on the door. He opens the door and is shot with a pistol three times through the heart. People come rushing in and discover in his affects a note titled "PLEASE READ IF I AM KILLED" The Note says "Dear Fellow Brothers in the Occult Brotherhood of the Skull, I am your high priest. Should I be killed, the assassin will be given the responsibility of assembling the team. Please assemble the team for me."


First the manner of the kill. There is little in this direct description. However milk has summarized and said more in post no 3


“Judean People's Front assassinated by gun. JPF identified as High Priest of the Occult Brotherhood of the SKULL.”


Assasinated is said, this is in contrast to the holy arrow for AFC. What does this mean?

It could mean here was a hit, it could means there is a different level of kill roles and it could be a good guy or a bad guy. I think its important as Lucaaas was also targeted.


We can say we have at least THREE killing roles and there could well be at least two bad teams as well as at least one good guy role.


Now the high priest. This sounds like someone killed the highest ranked member of this team. Remember there is a note left behind with contrasts ACS hugely


The Note says "Dear Fellow Brothers in the Occult Brotherhood of the Skull, I am your high priest. Should I be killed, the assassin will be given the responsibility of assembling the team. Please assemble the team for me."


This gives huge info. First a brotherhood is a team. Second they have an assassin (who went for either ACS or Lucaaas) third there was a role for this high priest that has passed to the assassin.. Assemble the team. This sounds like recruiting?


Nobody was announced as recruited last night? Did the kill prevent the recruit?

 

NOW LUCAAAS:

“During the commotion Lucaaas is getting ready for a cold bubble bath when his door is busted open in walks a masked assassin who tries to kill him. Fortunately for Lucaaas a body guard is able to knock him out of the bullets path. The assassin fails.”


Its pretty clear, A masked assassin attacks. This again suggests a different style of killet. This one appears to me to be a bad guy. It seems also that lucaaas cannot know who tried to hit him as it says masked.


A bodygaurd is also interesting.


Post 732. Lucaas adds info.

http://www.not606.com/threads/mafia-xi-an-unknown-evil-game-started.309818/page-37#post-8324772

“Obviously I got protected on the night, but I don't believe that its a permanent thing. I think the person has to choose 1 person each night to protect.


But that's just my guess and I'm as surprised as you that it happened.”


This is a bit of detail here. He doesn’t think its permanent, has to pick one each night. Lucaaas then went on to say he was surmising from other games and how milks runs them… milk has run 2 games.


This would be something interesting to me. I thought last night this suggested a team. I think the explanation can be plausible…. But there is a bit of extra info in there coughed up which I wondered who’d you know?

 

FINALLY ACS RISES:

“Albert's Chip Shop did die but due to a rule in place as the first killed he was resurrected into someone's team.”


So we know that he died. We know there was some rule to give the first person dead a way back into the game.


We know ACS knows full well what his original role was. The information is VERY specific after that.


He comes back onto SOMEONE’S team.


I think this is a BIG clue. Not necessarily on ACS but for the game. If I were saying this in a game I would have just said to a new role so that ACS could go play an extra good guy.


This said “SOMEONE’S TEAM” This suggest to me that my theory yesterday was right. We also cannot tell if ACS is good or bad. He plans to milk this rotten though… we do know this. Already he’s added indestructible to his character so we can say… hmm.. call bullshit on that.


There has to be quite a few teams at play here.


This brings me back in a circle to the Shaman role. Its very different to how JPF was revealed. Was he a lone actor which suggests there are people with roles separate to teams? What was he supposed to do and how could he have won.


Two people know. ACS and the medium.

 

Would someone like to provide a brief overview of the various thought processes going on? I haven't got the time, or indeed the inclination, to read through all 42 pages