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Wanyama wants to leave! [tough, you're staying - deal with it]

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  1. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Not trying to be annoying, but do you understand what a contract means.?
     
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  2. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Have you never heard of contracts? One of the things footballers give up in return for their multimillion pound salaries is the right to unilaterally terminate their own contract. If you think about it, no club outside the richest ones would be able to keep any player without this protection.
     
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  3. st_brendy

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    If you sign a contract for four years (or whatever the length), you should then be prepared to stay with that club for that time. Especially given that in most situations, the club will be paying your former club for your services. And paying multiple millions at that.

    Don't sign a four year contract if you want to leave after two.
     
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  4. Onionman

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    Footballers sign contracts. In return for agreeing to offer their services to a particular team for a given period, they receive the security of knowing that they are guaranteed to be paid for that period. Hence why Gastón is still here being paid and hence why, in the end, we had to pay Osvaldo to go.

    It's a little rich, in my opinion, for the player to want the benefit without feeling any compulsion to carry out their side of the deal. He's taken the money and the security, so we have the right to make him see out more (or even all) of his contract.

    Vin
     
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  5. Saintmagic

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    Yes I am aware of contracts thanks. I have one at work too, but it still wouldn't stop me from handing my notice in and leaving if I chose to. There was something going on quite recently in the courts about this issue with football, basically giving the players the option to buy out their contracts. It would effectively do away with transfer fees if it ever did happen.
     
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  6. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    And why Jay Rodriguez was paid for the whole period of his rehabilitation. If he had been an NHS employee with a long term sickness for example, he would have had 6 months full pay, 6 months half-pay, and then had his contract terminated with no compensation. Footballers do quite well compared to most people!
     
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  7. Beef

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    Or like me get jack **** so have to go on ESA and get £80 a week for 2 months.
     
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  8. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Well exactly. That sucks Beef. :emoticon-0101-sadsm
     
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  9. ----HistoryRepeating----

    ----HistoryRepeating---- Well-Known Member

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    Next time his house gets done over, I won't laugh, but boy will I not be sympathetic, he obviously does not like bonds of any sort. Good luck Vic, its a wild world.....
     
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  10. Beef

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    I'm lucky I have savings and will go straight back into my job. Plus have a gf that works, but others aren't so lucky. Footballers get paid a crazy amount no matter what.
     
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  11. SouthamptonFCroatia

    SouthamptonFCroatia Well-Known Member

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    i think they can already do that, tough I'm not completely sure. But it would cost them a considerable sum of money to do so, so it's no wonder very few greedy bastards choose to do that.

    Edit: yes they can http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/how-to-buy-out-your-football-728964
     
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  12. Dark Lord SFC

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    Will be interesting to see/hear the reaction to ****yama when he decides he can lower himself to play for us again
    For me, silence as I won't boo a player in our shirt but he has lost all my respect unless he signs a new contract and pledges his future (well until someone else offers him more money)
     
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  13. Saintmagic

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    That's interesting, quite surprised it doesn't happen more often. Using Wanyama as an example, say we want something like 25m for him surely Spurs could find some way of giving Wanyama the money to buy his contract out and sign for them for "free". Surely be significantly cheaper than paying a transfer fee.
     
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  14. Qwerty

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    Matt is right. When Vic realises he's staying, he'll regret not putting in a performance today.
     
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  15. ChilcoSaint

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    "Players must give notice they intend to use Article 17 within 15 days of the final league game of the season." Too late, Vic. Tough ****.
     
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  16. Dark Lord SFC

    Dark Lord SFC Well-Known Member

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    It's ok for a player to say "I want to join...."
    Two questions:
    1. How does he know that club wants him? Or are we suggesting the likes of Spurs have breached the rules?
    2. Even if we were ready to let him go, how does the player know that the mistery club will be prepared to pay the asking price which in ****yamas case must be circa £25m
     
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  17. Beef

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    ****yamas is a great name.
     
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  18. SouthamptonFCroatia

    SouthamptonFCroatia Well-Known Member

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    The rules are you cannot negotiate with the player until the agreement with the club has been reached, but nowdays everything is negotiated with the player before it even comes to agreeing the price with the club, which now becomes the last step in the negotiating process, when it should be the first.
     
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  19. Dark Lord SFC

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    So I wonder how ****yama knows that Spurs want him and how much he (& his agent) they are prepared to pay?
    I wonder?
     
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  20. GoSaint

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    if the suggestions that Vic pretty much concentrates on the football ( or not in the case of today!) and relies on his agent for everything else is true, I do feel a little sorry for him, but only a little.

    Whatever debt he feels he owes his agent and however non business minded he is, surely he has some inkling that potentially getting the back of the fans and club up is not a wise move. I think whoever said this move was engineered by the agent mostly for the sake of him getting his transfer fee cut could have it spot on.
     
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