FFP - City & PSG Break Rules

Wasn't it applied to European football before the PL?

Think its 8 homegrown in a 25 man squad. This can include foreign players who had come through English youth systems. The was also something to do with Club homegrown at one point, don't know if they still use that rule or not.

 

There is hg in cl, if anything is more stringent than prem rule frankly

 

Utter and total fantasy..... When sug 31 comes round you really ought to be shown this drivel when you think your club can spend what it likes but city won't.

Pity I could not be arsed marking this stuff down to show you

 

Was listening to a really good piece on Talkshite last night, with a very clued up football journo talking about FFP.

There appears to be a chain of thought around at present that FFP has been relaxed and is no longer relevant due to some comments made by Platini and the legal challenge in Brussels.

However, the rules remain unchanged and the legal challenge has been thrown out by the European court, as it basically said that football is a members only club and can have whatever rules it wants as part of its rules of entry. Therefore it's nothing to do with the European court, go away.

So, with FFP remaining unchanged, where does that leave the likes of City and Chelsea who've been spending like drunken sailors again? (and if rumours are true still have plenty more business to do this window) The expert had looked at their accounts and concluded that their spending would take them well over what they had generated in income and therefore in a heavy loss making situation again, thus falling foul of FFP.

 

Interesting. I thoight I read that they had relaxed the rules officially. Chelsea are probably spending big but they have actually sold big in last few years so in terms of net spend aren't actually too bad.

City are are the big ones though, just this yesr they'll be approaching 150m in transfers alone if the de Bruyne deal goes through, not even taking into account the big wages for sterling, otamendi and de Bruyne. haven't exactly shipped lots out either.

I think it's a great idea but crunch comes when a team constantly breaks it and how uefa react. They fines city and Psg but half of that fine was suspended, kicking them out of Europe would really show that uefa are taking it seriously.

Not heard anything about city's dodgy deal with sponsorship t
either, thought that was meant to be being looking into due to the family ties between both owners etc.

 

One must suspect that city are spending now for next 2 years and will balance out over 3 years?

Not sure if it's a rolling 3 years or what.

Cl and domestic money is growing hugely so will they actually be done? I dunno

 

If I remember rightly City's original fine was £49m,which was reduced to £17m They also had their CL squad reduced from 24
to 21 I think it was. As some predicted,FFP has made little difference to the big spending clubs.

 

the 21 man squad might have hurt a tiny but but the fine didn't even register.

it was bigger than balotelli fee but still didn't even matter to them

 

With Chelsea he was working on the premise that they'd complete the 2 big deals that they've been linked with today I.e. Stones and Pogba. He was saying that for them to stay within FFP then they simply couldn't do both deals, which hadn't even been touched on by the tabloids.

 

Stones yes, I can't see them getting pogba as well to be honest. Annoying as it is Chelsea have been very good with FFP as they've brought a shot load of young players farm them out on loan and pretty much cover their wages then sell any that are half decent for a 5m upwards and make decent profit.

 

Pogba would be more likely to happen and more likely to improve them

 

imo FFP cost City the title last season because they couldn't bring in needed players last year. So it can have an effect.

PSG are in a cack league so it hits them less domestically.

 

Maybe.

I think though other factors like mangala at 3 2mil didn't settle quick and kompany not being very fit hurt too.

I do agree teams need to constantly improve to compete

 

Great to hear. Never in doubt either. City took a gamble and will be called to account for it.

With kdb it will be pushing 200m this summer. For a club that makes very little legitimately they will be in trouble.

 

Look, city, psg and chelsea have taken a gamble. It was never going to pay off.

They will try every trick in the book but with the fifa scandal recently, i doubt uefa will want to look like they are bending over backwards or taking bungs.

 

I'm assuming it's not just based on income generation, otherwise Man Utd would be in trouble too #moneyinthebank

 

I don't know how the **** it's supposed to work, but surely in principle it was designed to prevent the likes of City from doing exactly what they appear to be doing?

 

Competently agree. I don't actually mind Man Utd splashing the cash because they've earnt the right to do so with years of PR etc.

Man City and PSG just don't give a **** about the rules and openly break them whilst pissing in UEFAs face

 

Would in 5 years time anyone even remember uefa banning either club from cl for a season

I mean really.....

Only if they won't accept the punishment I suppose

 

Nah,I don't buy it. City are the last squad (with Chelsea maybe) who can complain about squad strength and depth.
They just were not up for the fight last season, post Christmas they were ****e and rallied late on.

#yearonyearoff